[ShotgunPro]

Somebody talked me into doing a no-no with one of my IZ_109s.. shooting clays. After a case of clays and about a hundred heavy 00 downrange, I decided to give in and buy the cheap bulk Wallyworld 2.75" target load. Expecting this stuff to not cycle properly as people claim with Saiga12s I orderd the CSS gas plug, puck, and reduced recoil spring. I took the kit (still in the box) and the cheap ammo to the range and as luck would have it, I was able to shoot the Wallyworld stuff with zero FTEs on the stock plug so I never installed the CSS upgade parts.

Question is:
1) I can shoot cheap Wallyammo on either setting of the stock plug (1 or 2). Plug was verified reseated fully and then position checked twice. Is there a problem with the gun?
2) Has Federal stepped up their game and made better target loads or is there a worse brand that I can test and try to create a FTE?
3) maybe there isn't any difference between the birdshot labeled Hi Brass and the ones not labeled as such?

Any input appreciated.

 

[ShotgunPro]

I've never had a problem with the cheap federal bulk packs. I have had trouble with the winchesters though. The aluminium would swell and then the extractor couldn't get it out of the chamber. And i think that is the biggest differance is the high brass won't expand as bad while the alluminium can which can cause the problem above.

And on second look were you shooting clays with 00???

 

[ShotgunPro]

There is a difference in the length of the brass. High brass is usually magnum or max dram eq loads. The low brass shells have less powder in them.

 

[ShotgunPro]

My biggest problem with shooting clays is they don't break

 

[ShotgunPro]

All I had on hand originally was heavy duty defense rounds and the buckshot was the most abundant. Trying to hit clays with expanding slugs is entertaining but beyond my skill. My concern is that I may be getting too much gas which equates to accelerated wear/tear on the moving internals.

 

[ShotgunPro]

All I had on hand originally was heavy duty defense rounds and the buckshot was the most abundant. Trying to hit clays with expanding slugs is entertaining but beyond my skill. My concern is that I may be getting too much gas which equates to accelerated wear/tear on the moving internals.

Your cheap shells are going to be a lot weaker then most buck shot. I shoot clays about once a month and go through a couple hundred of the cheap walmart stuff. There is no way i would do that with the buck shot. Not to mention all the holes in the pattern the clay could go through.