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I have the Condor in 20 gauge I use for trap shooting.they are a very solid performer and for the money a pretty good deal,I think.Both choke tubes are removable so a person can pick and choose their choke preference.I paid a little over $300.00 at Bass Pro about 2 years ago.:mrgreen:
 

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They are made / owned by Benelli. I am getting one for trap and pheasant hunting. It's the Condor Supreme 12 ga. Trading a Mig welder for it, it's brand new and I here they are good guns.
 

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Range report on the Stoger. It worked great without any issues. Shot 50 rounds at clays and had a great time. It's my first O/U and I found out that the bottom barrel is the main or single shot barrel. I did shoot some doubles without any problems. Looking to get the 20ga model for the girlfriend, the 12 was a bit much for her.
 

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Just picked up their Double Defender side by side 2 weeks ago, I love it!




I never knew much about them as a company before but I would buy from them again.
 

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I just bought a second Condor 12ga O/U for the girlfriend. We shot 3 rounds of trap with no issues. The saftey is a bit hard on hers, but it will work in after a bit.
 

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I have the M2000 Turkey Gun with the Steady Grip, in camo. Great gun and they do need to be broke in. Manual says 100 rnds for break in I beleive? I have well over that now and it's butter.

Came with 5 chokes. Easy to tear down, clean. I would buy again as its a good bang for the buck.

Never dealt with them as fas as O/U or side by side.
 

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I did A LOT of research on "affordable" (<1000$) a couple years back and did a lot of reading and talking about the Stoegers. I eventually ended up deciding against it due to various issues that seemed more common than the occasionally "lemon" such as mis-matched barrels, broken firing pins, one chamber not firing at all or not cocking, badly/prematurely worn mono-blocks, etc. After all of my research on "affordable" O/Us I concluded that a cheap O/U that will last and with accurately matched barrels does not exist. The best affordable ones I could find were CZ's, used Citoris, and if you could find one, a used Ruger Red Label but even these are fetching high prices today.
 

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I bought one for my brother and it completely fell apart, literally. Definitely a buy-once, cry-once situation with cheapo over unders.
Update on this - after my Bro's Condor fell apart, he bought a Mossberg Silver Reserve without asking me first. It just snapped a firing pin, at well under the thousand-round mark. Now I get to fix a Mossberg.

I really think a CZ is the cheapest O/U I would go with, at around $600 street prices. I was fondling a SxS woodcock in 28 ga at the NRA show and thinking about doves this fall...
 

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Update on this - after my Bro's Condor fell apart, he bought a Mossberg Silver Reserve without asking me first. It just snapped a firing pin, at well under the thousand-round mark. Now I get to fix a Mossberg.

I really think a CZ is the cheapest O/U I would go with, at around $600 street prices. I was fondling a SxS woodcock in 28 ga at the NRA show and thinking about doves this fall...
Haha. I did plenty of research on the Mossberg Silver Reserves too. Same findings.

Unless the quality control / construction materials have improved on the "bargain O/Us" has changed, there is no "good and cheap" O/U. Seems like it's either going to fail prematurely or from what I saw, is going to have poorly matched bbls.
 

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Stoegers are made in Brazil and imported through Benelli (I see lots of people think they are MADE by Benelli, which is simply not true and they're nowhere near that.) For the money, I can't recommend Stoegers enough. It's true that every company has lemons, but from what I've seen, Stoegers are good to go.

My first experience was my college roommate had a Condor O/U 4 years when I first met him. He'd used it for small game, turkey, and clays and never an issue. To this day he's never had a problem. Additionally, I've worked at Dick's Sporting Goods for a year now and have sold dozens of them, and I've never had ONE come back with any issue of any kind (cannot be said for Savage/Stevens, Franchi, Remington, and Benelli).

In comparison to higher end guns, Stoegers are heavy and the fit and finish is so/so. But, for a $300-400 gun you've got to make sacrifices. From what I've seen, they go bang every time and have never had any kind of issue reported to me. If I were lookin for an inexpensive O/U, I'd buy one without thinking twice.
 

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Quote form Stoeger's website

"In the 1990s, the Stoeger company was purchased by Finnish rifle manufacturer Sako. In 2000, Sako was acquired by Beretta Holding S.p.A. At that time, Stoeger Industries was placed under the ownership of Benelli USA, where it remains today as a member of the Benelli USA family of companies."

Owned by Benelli, but not made by Benelli. I kind of wonder if and or how much input Benelli has in the Mgf. process or QC?

My two O/U's are working well, no issues as of yet. I like the side by side Coach gun!
 
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