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I can get a smoken deal on a brand new siaga 12 . Are they as great as people say they are.
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People say they are great? Everyone I have ever shot has been fun for a shot period and then would start to malfunction over and over. They seem to be failure heavy from what I have seen. go with the 1919. They are supposed to be much more reliable and the manufacturing standards are higher.

Check Firebird Precision.
They make both. The 1919 is cheaper.
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TCS_XDM said:
People say they are great? Everyone I have ever shot has been fun for a short period and then would start to malfunction over and over. They seem to be failure heavy from what I have seen. go with the 1919. They are supposed to be much more reliable and the manufacturing standards are higher.

Check Firebird Precision.
They make both. The 1919 is cheaper.
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The Siaga seems to be a love hate relationship. People get good ones that turn bad though, for sure. I think a lot of it is incompetence. But, I detest a lot of the "conversions" being touted as being as good as an actual AK platform from a reputable maker with a price tag to match. So, I agree.

Siaga's do not really impress me.
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My 7.62x39 Saiga (converted) runs like a Kalashnikov should and I'd put it up against any other AK in the world. The shotguns seem to be a bit more flaky and it really depends on the quality of the work done to them. As much as I like the AK platform, for a scattergun I think I'd look at something purpose-designed for shotgun ammo, especially with the prices on the S-12's up as high as they are. What kind of deal are you looking at?
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They can be great after you stick a bunch more money into it to get it to run consistently.
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My saiga 12 rocks. I do know that people have trouble usually in the beginning when they get them, because of power factors with certain loads and the stock gas plug and spring sets. When I got mine I completely overhauled it with a conversion to the original AK style, polished internals and MD arms gas plug. I can cycle cheap walmart bulk winchester and federal target loads all the way up to 3 inch hunting loads reliably.

I personally think they are awesome shotguns, but if you want to shoot the cheap light loads you need to be willing to work on it a little before hand.

I still highly recommend the Saiga 12 as an amazing shotgun platform.
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I love the ak platform. Had Ar's dont like there gas design. I like the look of the 1919. My friends stock siaga shoots cheap walmart crap. I want it for home defense and back up gun for hunting. Id set it up with tapco 6 position stock. Rail red dot with some other goodies. If my s&w 460 dont come in by nov it will be a strick hunting gun. Need a good semi shotty.
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What are you going to hunt with a siaga? You cant hunt any migratory bird.
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Yes hunt with it lol. I use my guns for everything. And be for deer
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Your going to hunt Deer with a Siaga Shotgun? You know you can get a decent used lever/bolt action rifle for like $200 that will preform circles around that gun at deer hunting. Your going to have to get pretty close to a deer to kill it with a smooth barrel shotgun within 50 yards for a clean kill.
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Your going to hunt Deer with a Siaga Shotgun? You know you can get a decent used lever/bolt action rifle for like $200 that will preform circles around that gun at deer hunting. Your going to have to get pretty close to a deer to kill it with a smooth barrel shotgun within 50 yards for a clean kill.
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Unfortunately some of us live in "shotgun only" states/parts of states. I'm one of these people. I do agree with the smooth bore being poor for slugs. One can get around 4 MOA at 50yards with some guns and some slugs. I've yet to find better than that with the smooth bores. That's why I switched to a rifled barrel. Of course where I live we can use a muzzle loader during the shotgun season. That will improve accuracy a whole bunch.
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SHOTGUN ONLY STATE????? I didnt know that existed. That sucks. That doesn't even make sense to me. Why wouldn't the state prefer a clean kill? This has blown my mind. Thank the heavens I live in Texas. The grass is greener, beer is colder, and our women are hotter.
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I could be wrong, but I think it has to deal with how far the projectile will travel if missed. Illinois has the same law.
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SHOTGUN ONLY STATE????? I didnt know that existed. That sucks. That doesn't even make sense to me. Why wouldn't the state prefer a clean kill? This has blown my mind. Thank the heavens I live in Texas. The grass is greener, beer is colder, and our women are hotter.
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Here in Ohio the law states that you must use a shotgun with a plugged magazine tube so that it only holds 3 rounds total. Or it must be manufactured to hold three rounds.

Coincidentally, I can shoot all the crows, coyotes and groundhogs I want with high powered rifles. But not deer, no siree.

I have a mossberg 695 bolt action with a 2 round detachable magazine, making it 3 total. Fully rifled barrel for sabot slugs. It center punches at 150 yards all day.
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billdogg said:
I could be wrong, but I think it has to deal with how far the projectile will travel if missed. Illinois has the same law.
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From what I understand, that is the same premise here in Ohio, However, I can still varmint hunt with whatever centerfire rifle I desire :rolleyes:.
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SonOfOdin said:
From what I understand, that is the same premise here in Ohio, However, I can still varmint hunt with whatever centerfire rifle I desire :rolleyes:.
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Same in MN.
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Yes he in the good old we screw you over state of ny.can only use shot gun or pistol. Y i ordered a 460. But yeah can hunt with rifle but that county is 4hr drive for me. I still can get a good 100 yrd shot drop them on spot with 3in high brass.
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Yeah itd messed up i can use 308 on yotes and 223 on fox. Have used 7mm on chucks. But deer we uave to use pistol or shotty.
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My friends converted saiga 12 is pushing 2k rounds without ever being cleaned and works flawless.
With that said i dont think its much fun to shoot because i dont like to shoot 12 gauge anymore.
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I wouldn't trade my S12 for anything.
It puts a smile on the face of everyone that's ever shot it.

I lucked out and got one that ran everything including the cheap bulk crap right out of the box. I wasn't expecting that since I know that is not what they were designed or intended to shoot. It would have been an easy fix anyways, but it was a pleasant surprise that I didn't even have to bother.

After an extremely easy to do pistol grip conversion it's easily one of my favorite guns. Just depends on what you are looking for.
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