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I can get a smoken deal on a brand new siaga 12 . Are they as great as people say they are.
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People say they are great? Everyone I have ever shot has been fun for a shot period and then would start to malfunction over and over. They seem to be failure heavy from what I have seen. go with the 1919. They are supposed to be much more reliable and the manufacturing standards are higher.
Check Firebird Precision.
They make both. The 1919 is cheaper.
Check Firebird Precision.
They make both. The 1919 is cheaper.
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The Siaga seems to be a love hate relationship. People get good ones that turn bad though, for sure. I think a lot of it is incompetence. But, I detest a lot of the "conversions" being touted as being as good as an actual AK platform from a reputable maker with a price tag to match. So, I agree.
Siaga's do not really impress me.
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My 7.62x39 Saiga (converted) runs like a Kalashnikov should and I'd put it up against any other AK in the world. The shotguns seem to be a bit more flaky and it really depends on the quality of the work done to them. As much as I like the AK platform, for a scattergun I think I'd look at something purpose-designed for shotgun ammo, especially with the prices on the S-12's up as high as they are. What kind of deal are you looking at?
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They can be great after you stick a bunch more money into it to get it to run consistently.
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My saiga 12 rocks. I do know that people have trouble usually in the beginning when they get them, because of power factors with certain loads and the stock gas plug and spring sets. When I got mine I completely overhauled it with a conversion to the original AK style, polished internals and MD arms gas plug. I can cycle cheap walmart bulk winchester and federal target loads all the way up to 3 inch hunting loads reliably.
I personally think they are awesome shotguns, but if you want to shoot the cheap light loads you need to be willing to work on it a little before hand.
I still highly recommend the Saiga 12 as an amazing shotgun platform.
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I personally think they are awesome shotguns, but if you want to shoot the cheap light loads you need to be willing to work on it a little before hand.
I still highly recommend the Saiga 12 as an amazing shotgun platform.
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I love the ak platform. Had Ar's dont like there gas design. I like the look of the 1919. My friends stock siaga shoots cheap walmart crap. I want it for home defense and back up gun for hunting. Id set it up with tapco 6 position stock. Rail red dot with some other goodies. If my s&w 460 dont come in by nov it will be a strick hunting gun. Need a good semi shotty.
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What are you going to hunt with a siaga? You cant hunt any migratory bird.
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Yes hunt with it lol. I use my guns for everything. And be for deer
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Your going to hunt Deer with a Siaga Shotgun? You know you can get a decent used lever/bolt action rifle for like $200 that will preform circles around that gun at deer hunting. Your going to have to get pretty close to a deer to kill it with a smooth barrel shotgun within 50 yards for a clean kill.
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Unfortunately some of us live in "shotgun only" states/parts of states. I'm one of these people. I do agree with the smooth bore being poor for slugs. One can get around 4 MOA at 50yards with some guns and some slugs. I've yet to find better than that with the smooth bores. That's why I switched to a rifled barrel. Of course where I live we can use a muzzle loader during the shotgun season. That will improve accuracy a whole bunch.
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SHOTGUN ONLY STATE????? I didnt know that existed. That sucks. That doesn't even make sense to me. Why wouldn't the state prefer a clean kill? This has blown my mind. Thank the heavens I live in Texas. The grass is greener, beer is colder, and our women are hotter.
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I could be wrong, but I think it has to deal with how far the projectile will travel if missed. Illinois has the same law.
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Here in Ohio the law states that you must use a shotgun with a plugged magazine tube so that it only holds 3 rounds total. Or it must be manufactured to hold three rounds.
Coincidentally, I can shoot all the crows, coyotes and groundhogs I want with high powered rifles. But not deer, no siree.
I have a mossberg 695 bolt action with a 2 round detachable magazine, making it 3 total. Fully rifled barrel for sabot slugs. It center punches at 150 yards all day.
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From what I understand, that is the same premise here in Ohio, However, I can still varmint hunt with whatever centerfire rifle I desire
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Same in MN.From what I understand, that is the same premise here in Ohio, However, I can still varmint hunt with whatever centerfire rifle I desire
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Yes he in the good old we screw you over state of ny.can only use shot gun or pistol. Y i ordered a 460. But yeah can hunt with rifle but that county is 4hr drive for me. I still can get a good 100 yrd shot drop them on spot with 3in high brass.
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Yeah itd messed up i can use 308 on yotes and 223 on fox. Have used 7mm on chucks. But deer we uave to use pistol or shotty.
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My friends converted saiga 12 is pushing 2k rounds without ever being cleaned and works flawless.
With that said i dont think its much fun to shoot because i dont like to shoot 12 gauge anymore.
With that said i dont think its much fun to shoot because i dont like to shoot 12 gauge anymore.
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I wouldn't trade my S12 for anything.
It puts a smile on the face of everyone that's ever shot it.
I lucked out and got one that ran everything including the cheap bulk crap right out of the box. I wasn't expecting that since I know that is not what they were designed or intended to shoot. It would have been an easy fix anyways, but it was a pleasant surprise that I didn't even have to bother.
After an extremely easy to do pistol grip conversion it's easily one of my favorite guns. Just depends on what you are looking for.
It puts a smile on the face of everyone that's ever shot it.
I lucked out and got one that ran everything including the cheap bulk crap right out of the box. I wasn't expecting that since I know that is not what they were designed or intended to shoot. It would have been an easy fix anyways, but it was a pleasant surprise that I didn't even have to bother.
After an extremely easy to do pistol grip conversion it's easily one of my favorite guns. Just depends on what you are looking for.
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