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What is a nice shotgun for shooting some skeet and occasional pheasant hunting?

I am not looking for anything real expensive just something that is a good gun.
 

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Any run of the mill pump gun will work. If you want to get serious, or would like to do as best you can with skeet, get a gun fitted to you. Makes a TON of difference. My dad has a Browning O/U that fits me like a glove. I can dominate with it. Not so much his Mossy 500 w/ 28" barrel.
 

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This is actually for a friend of mine that was asking me about it. I don't know very much about shotguns so I came here.

I think that he is left handed which may make a difference.

He isn't big into it he just wants to go shoot some skeet occasionally when he is up at his cabin. Also hunting some pheasant a few times a year. So I don't think that he wants something expensive. Just a solid gun that will be reliable and do the job.

What about barrel length, choke, gauge, over under? What are your suggestions?
 

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Grab a Mossberg 500 complete with 28" barrel. Then buy an 18.5" barrel separate (got mine for $60 new). Strap on the 18" for home defense use, the 28" for everything else. Buy a bunch of chokes, see which works best. If you're not very good use an open one. Once you get better start closing it a bit.

You can probably pull off that package for $300 or so, new.
 

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I love my Beretta AL391 Teknys, got it for $980 new as part of a great deal a year and a half ago.

I've heard good things about Rem 1100s. My father in law and several of his hunting friends swear by Benelli, and they're damn good with 'em too.
 

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I have a Baikal 12 gauge over under with 29.5" barrells that are ported. The gun is made in Russia and imported by Remington arms and is a solid made gun that will hold up for both types of shooting you mentioned. The barrels are chromed lined for durability and the wood looks great. It has automatic locking system which means each time you open the action then close it the safetly automatically engages. I paid a little over $500.00 and have had a lot of people with Browning, Barreta and other espensive shotguns say they love the feel, the balance and the way the gun shoots. They import a less expensive model that is not ported but for those doubles in Skeet shooting the porting will help get you back on target quicker.
 

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I guess the best answer is, what type of action do you prefer? Do you like pumps or semi-autos? If you are looking for a pump, definetly the Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. Both are inexpensive, reliable, and overall great guns. I personally prefer the Mossberg between them mostly because I'm left handed and I like the tandem safety on the receiver rather than the cross bolt safety on the 870. If you like a semi-auto, I would agree with the suggestion for the Remington 1100. I own one and I've hunted everything from squirrel to deer with it, and broke several thousand clays with it in my backyard over the nearly 7 years I've had it. It will cost a bit more than a pump, but IMO its the best semi auto on the market for the money. The great gas system also helps reduce felt recoil, good if you're shooting a lot of rounds. I know it doesn't shoot 3" shells, but I've never found that to be a problem when hunting or target shooting, even when shooting turkey or goose. The 1100 is also a little heavier than a pump, but I'm 5'7 and 160 and I can tote it all day with no problems. Extra weight also reduces recoil as compared to the lighter weight of a pump. I don't know if that's a concern for you or not. I've shot pumps and semi autos in both guages and never found any to be beyond what I could handle, but I suppose its different for everyone.
In terms of guage, 12 is the best overall for just about anything you'd be doing, but if you or your friend are new to shooting or shotguns, or are worried about recoil or have weak shoulders, I might sugggest starting with a 20 guage. It will still break targets and can still kill any game animal. I started with one and killed squirrels and some birds with it with no trouble. 16 Guages are a good middle ground but they and their ammo are almost impossible to get these days. I have a Savage semi auto i borrowed from a friend and really enjoyed it but ammo was hard to get and expensive.
As far as choke goes, for trap shooting and any real upland hunting like for pheasant or grouse a normal modified choke is what I would recommend. If you're going to hunt goose or turkey, which are tougher to bring down, you should use Full choke. I have a normal 28" barrel length on my Remington 1100 and have used a same length barrel on a Mossberg 500 20 Ga I used to use.
Any of the above would be great all around choices, you can't really go wrong. As with most gun choices, a lot of it is personal preference. If you can, try borrowing some shotguns from your buddies at the range and try them out. Good luck with your decision.
 

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for a lefty, I'd get an OU or side by side. I think the OU are a better design (more accurate, quicker follow up), but the SBS tend to be cheaper.

the only advantage of a pump would be he wont need to carry loose shells for hunting. a semi auto will have less recoil
 

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excellent information guys, thank you. I am going to let him check out this thread so that he can read these things for himself.

If you have anything else to add please keep it coming. THe more information he has the easier the choice will be for him
 

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go with the Stoeger Condor Over-Under 12ga thay are nice and inexpensive and are made by Benelli

Stoeger Condor Over & Under Shotguns: 12-Gauge, 20-Gauge, and .410 Gauge with 3" Chamber; 16-Gauge with 2-3/4" Chamberx
Exactly what I was going to recommend. If you want something JUST for hunting and clays without getting overly expensive, this would be the top choice. My old roommate has one and it's amazing to shoot (and beautiful to look at).

If you want a "do it all" shotty, get a pump, but for simply skeet and pheasant, it's hard to beat an over/under.
 

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I'm fond of my Benelli M1S90 for upland & clays. Light to carry, inertia-operated for reliablilty. As a (personal) bonus, mine is stamped H&K...:cool:

If I was to get a pump gun for the purpose, I'd almost certainly get a 20ga Browning BPS. A buddy has one, and it's sweeeeet. Quite light for a pump gun, and just sharp lookin' as well. Great shooting shotgun.
 

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Personally, I prefer a SXS to a stackbarrel.

You should probably haul him down to a store with a large selection and find a gun that fits him pretty good, then tell him to buy that.
 
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