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I seem to have every gun I could ever need...... except a shotgun. I know nothing about them. I've always been fond of a SxS with working hammers and triggers, but they are expensive (CZ has a model I really like). In a SHTF scenario, since I have all the guns I need anyways, what type of shotgun should I buy? Mossburg? Full length, pistol grip? Which is most practical and dependable?

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Personally, I would go with a pump Remington or Mossberg. I like the pumps as they are very simple, good in a SHTF situation. Also, the nice thing with the 870 is you can swap a barrel in about 30 secs. I have a pistol grip with a butt stock on my HD shotty. It has the 18" barrel and mag extension. I'll be adding some other stuff, but as of right now if I needed to I could put on a longer barrel and hunt if needed. There's my $.02.
Do pump actions ever jam (I've never shot one)? Is it practical to hunt with a pistol grip shotty? I've looked into foldable stocks and my initial impression from the reviews is that they suck. I wish I could have the shotgun from jurrasic park, but I heard they don't import those anymore. :(

Is this practical?

CZ SxS Hammer Coach
I wouldnt think a double barrel hammer is practical in an "everyday use" fashion unless you wanted it just to be a trap gun or you're doing hunting....I mean it could work in a HD/SHTF scenario, but it dosen't have alot of capacity. Honestly you're better off going with an R870/M500 for quite a bit less than the SxS is going for and it'll suite all of your needs.
Also, no...a pistol grip isn't really great for hunting, you want a good shoulder stock to stablize and help aim.

Oh, and I've never had a pump-action jam on me...
I have a Mossberg 590 Tac HD shotgun. Full stock not pistol grip. I have found that a regular stock is best on the Mossberg because of the safety location. and a pistol grip on a Remington yet again dealing with the safety location. If your looking for a dual purpose shot gun go with a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 both under 400 bucks and are great guns. Pump actions hardly and i mean hardly jam I have been using one for 17 year and have never had one jam. I have had a couple semi-auto shotguns jam up on me but never my pump actions.



And a full stock pistol grip (like the one Pictured) to hunt with is fine allot of turkey guns now are coming out with pistol grips. Its all in what you feel comfortable with. Pick up and handle as many different guns and stock configurations as you can until you find the one that you feel is perfect.
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I picked up a Benelli Nova Pump for $315 at Sportsman's and I LOVE it. GREAT gun. The only thing I don't like is that I can't find any accessories to make it Tacti-cool...:D.
I have owned and still own more than two pump shot guns. I have never had one jam up. If you are looking at a shot gun to use for home protection and hunting, I beleive Mossberg has a set up that comes with two barrels. Also the sound of racking up a shell should scare the heck out of any intruder.
I would bet that someone at the local range would let you try out one of there guns. The shot gun is not the difficult to control when shooting from the hip.
Can't go wrong with a Mossberg 500 or Rem. 870. They are both real workhorses. I would avoid the pistol grip. It increases portability by 50% but decreases accuracy by the same amount. I would rather have a firm shoulder weld.
... Also the sound of racking up a shell should scare the heck out of any intruder. ...
^^ To me, that is the only real value in a pump shotgun as most reputable semi-autos are just as reliable nowadays.

I enjoy my Remington 11-87 quite a bit. There are a few more aftermarket accessories for the 1100 (or so I've been told), but I keep my 11-87 as it came right out of the box. It's a great, reliable shooter and I've never had it not go "bang" since I got it many moons ago.

The Benelli shotguns are amazing. They're crazy light (especially my Dad's super black eagle), they're crazy reliable, but they're pretty expensive. I think my Dad paid close to $1200 for his, but he's a turkey hunting nut.

I'm personally interested in getting a Saiga shotgun. It's based off of the Kalashnikov platform so it's going to be reliable. My only concern is that I've heard that there are some loads that they can't handle.
The pistol grip also takes away a butt-strike as a weapon.

I have a Mossberg 500, shot the long barrel for ducks for several years until I upgraded to a Browning Gold Hunter semi-auto, and keep the 18.5" slug barrel on it now. With 00 buck, at 10-12 yards I've punched holes the size of a softball in the rib cages of wild pigs, it's a devastating weapon. Mine is 1 up- 5 down with the unplugged, standard tube. I figure if after 6 shots the other guy is still standing, I'm in a heap of trouble. I used Krylon camo khaki and olive drab on my 'signature' camo pattern on all my hunting gear.

BTW, guys who own Winchester shotguns passionately hate Mossbergs for some reason. I think Winchester makes a pretty fine weapon, myself.

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A pistol grip by itself is not great for hunting, but I like this (This is what I have w/o the foregrip):


ETA: I also recommend getting one that can shoot 2 3/4" AND 3" rounds. This will give you the best of both worlds. As for the 10ga vs. 12 ga. I say 12 ga. It's a more popular round and is more likely to be in stock at little shops in a SHTF scenario.
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12 gauge or 10?
If your looking into hunting 12g is a standard but if your looking at goose or duck hunting in a windy area go with the 10g more punch in those high wind conditions. But a 12g will be less harmful to your shoulder. I have always had a 12g good all around round. Plus there is allot of different rounds available for 12g. including rubber pellets, salt rock, buck shot, rifled slug, upland game loads, target loads, flechette rounds and many many other rounds.
Rem 870
maverick 88 (mossberg 500 with a trigger gaurd safety)
either of those with an ATI fold over stock, speedfeed, knox recoil stock or standard stock will be fine what wired has is fine too.

Mossberg 500 with a standard stock would be fine as well.

Yeah we don't import SPAS 12s anymore but I saw one at the last gunshow I went to for 2200
You can't go wrong with a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 (with traditional stock), although many favor the safety location of the Mossberg. However, if you're using the pistol grip/shoulder stock type stock some have posted here, the Rem 870 might be better for you. Still, either are extremely reliable and proven by time and service by various military and law enforcement all over the world.

Semi autos of today are reliable, but if for whatever reason you do not hold them correctly, or something else weird happens where it doesn't recoil properly, it might not work the action properly. A pump will never jam for that reason - generally it jams if you short stroke, or something else - user error. That obviously wouldn't happen in a semi auto. So there's a quick look at both platforms in general, but the short stroke issue disappears with some experience. It's not a real issue.
My 870 Never jams.....But If you don'tpump it right the shell will not eject all the way.I had to learn and stop this problem,because I skeet shoot doubles .And it is hard to do with A halfway ejected shell.Still doubles with a pump makes you feel cool out there..12 gauge
I have owned and still own more than two pump shot guns. I have never had one jam up. If you are looking at a shot gun to use for home protection and hunting, I beleive Mossberg has a set up that comes with two barrels. Also the sound of racking up a shell should scare the heck out of any intruder.
I would bet that someone at the local range would let you try out one of there guns. The shot gun is not the difficult to control when shooting from the hip.
I think the model 500 is pump & 930 is semi. Barrels are 18.5in. & 28in.
Ill echo whats been said but with a bias to Remington. 870 is unstoppable and will function reliably anytime anywhere. You just cant baby the pump action in any gun...shuck that shell out with authority and slam it home and it will not FTE or FTF. I have never seen a pump jam because of the gun, just user error. I am biased to Remington because Mossy's used to just feel cheaper. The slide would rattle around, not good when hunting. But i think they make better quality guns these days. My first gun was an 870 youth 20 ga and i still have it and still use it. I now have a 3.5 870 with a 24 in barrel for turkey hunting and also stays bedside loaded with 00. Personally i dont see the need for a pistol grip, but can see the value in one handed HD scenarios. If HD is your main reason, get a pump, not SS. Also, go with the 12. 10s are heavy and not as weildy IMO, i dont see a value in the bigger bore unless your turkey or goose hunting. Even then i question it for the weight difference.
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