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$500 just seems high compared to what you can get a good pump for... damn!

What's the average cost for some 00?

I was looking at 50 round drum mags for a saiga, $130!!!!!!!!
 

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$500 just seems high compared to what you can get a good pump for... damn!

What's the average cost for some 00?

I was looking at 50 round drum mags for a saiga, $130!!!!!!!!
I can get a cheap pump gun for a lot less than 500, but it would be difficult to purchase a quality auto-loading shotgun for the price of a Saiga 12.

I purchased my S12 used for 395 off gunbroker (with about 100 rounds through it, so I wouldn't even call it used by shotgun standards.) Guy was local too, so I didn't have to add shipping.

The highest capacity drum mag I've seen was 30 rounds, and it was something to the tone of $350. No thanks......ultimately too cumbersome, too much weight, and not worth the price. I can buy at least 8 12 rounds mags for that price. 20 round drum is a little better, and is in the area of 100-120 shipped. Promag also has a 12 round drum mag that looks more manageable.
 

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Back when they first came out I bought all of them. I paid $180.00 OTD for my 410 and the 20 and 12 were $230.00 a year and a half later. This was back in the late 90s and early 00s.

No way I would spend 500 on one today. The importers made a good dime on them back when I bought mine. Now they are just making a killing on the kool factor. I even bought a 7.62x39mm for less than 200 back when it came out...

Glad I got em when I did. They are in storage right now for when the prices get even higher and I can make a real killing on them. I use my single shots and pumps.......
 

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Back when they first came out I bought all of them. I paid $180.00 OTD for my 410 and the 20 and 12 were $230.00 a year and a half later. This was back in the late 90s and early 00s.

No way I would spend 500 on one today. The importers made a good dime on them back when I bought mine. Now they are just making a killing on the kool factor. I even bought a 7.62x39mm for less than 200 back when it came out...

Glad I got em when I did. They are in storage right now for when the prices get even higher and I can make a real killing on them. I use my single shots and pumps.......
heck, prices already went up and came back down, still going down.
At the height of the Obummer madness, the S12s were going for $700-800 unconverted... Madness :roll:

And right now the 5.45s are very hard to find, and some are willing to pay well for'em.
 

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Just curious... what is the average going price for the saiga 12's.

Ive seen them on gunbroker with an adjustable stock and run $700+
circa 500. I think an adjustable stock and unconverted is illegal......

Back when they first came out I bought all of them. I paid $180.00 OTD for my 410 and the 20 and 12 were $230.00 a year and a half later. This was back in the late 90s and early 00s.

No way I would spend 500 on one today. The importers made a good dime on them back when I bought mine. Now they are just making a killing on the kool factor. I even bought a 7.62x39mm for less than 200 back when it came out...

Glad I got em when I did. They are in storage right now for when the prices get even higher and I can make a real killing on them. I use my single shots and pumps.......
my 7.62X39 I got for 200 could have gotten a s12 for 260 but thought the ammo was too expensive.... I regret that now.

You missed the high point unconverted s12s for 960 already happened. production/import has caught up with demand.

Oh for those wondering supposedly the 20 rd drum MD arms makes are the most reliable anything bigger reputedly jams.

also unless you can take the pressure off a mag/drum, you can't store ammo in them, it deforms and will not feed.
 

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circa 500. I think an adjustable stock and unconverted is illegal.......
also unless you can take the pressure off a mag/drum, you can't store ammo in them, it deforms and will not feed.
Putting an adjustable stock with a pistol grip, converted or unconverted, requires the addition of enough US made parts to comply with 922r.

MD arms makes the original drum mag, I think. The only mags with a higher capacity are 30 round and cost $350.

also unless you can take the pressure off a mag/drum, you can't store ammo in them, it deforms and will not feed.
from where is this info coming? Do you mean the ammo or the magazine? The straight mags behave like any other box magazine, and the drum is built sturdily enough that I can't imagine it deforming with ammunition in it for an extended period. I would imagine that would have been a potential problem that would have been addressed in the R&D phase.
 

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I have two MD20s and have never seen any deformation of the rounds when stored fully loaded. Never heard of it over at S12.com either.
Never heard of any of the box mags, nor drums, having such problems, nor problems with feed lips deforming under pressure.

What I have heard, and seen firsthand, is the top round of a loaded mag become deformed and fail to feed... When the fully loaded mag was left in the gun under a closed bolt.
 

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What Chili said!

I think he's talking leaving a loaded mag IN THE GUN with the bolt closed. There have been problems with this in the past with the rounds below deforming against the bolt and not feeding correctly. There have been various attempts to eliminate this. I would simply leave the bolt open locked back, but some remove the BHO when converting. Others worry this could cause long term problems with recoil spring compressed, but I doubt it.
 
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