Rifle or shotty next.

depends what you want more.. if your just looking for a shotty to sit in a corner somewhere till the need arises, then you can get a cheaper mosberg Mav 88 and save some coin.. if your going to want to get into clay shooting, then you will want one that allows the use of different chokes (which will come in handy if you want to duck hunt). if thats your preference, then keep in mind tactical/HD shottys dont usually accept chokes.

.223 is a good plinker, keep in mind the ammo rush is still going strong, and buying just to plink at the range can be difficult in some areas... like mine. i notice alot of 30.06 and .270 on the shelves though, and those would make good for target practice, and you can actually buy ammo for them.

all in all it boils down to preference really.. which do you really want now, either would make a fine addition to a growing collection.. but myself.. i'd go shotty next.. everyone should have a good shotty on hand, with some buck shot you have another HD option, with slugs you can reach out for distance up to 100 yards at the range.

cheers

xdkid23 said:

i have the kel tec and absolutely love it... there are tons of aftermarket stuff for them and yes they do accept M/AR mags... shotgun is great for home defense, i have a mossy 500 tac, and its a great shotty for HD but not much fun otherwise.. the kel tec is fun and accurate

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I shot one at my sister-in-law's range in Atlanta and it was fun. The price wasn't bad either.

I picked up a 12ga Hawk 982 for the house.



I figure that simple is good, 12ga is big enough and I don't need anything "Taticial" to get the job done for home defense. For my use, its going to sit in the bedroom as an insurance policy. I don't need anything tricked out and IMHO ... practice with what you own. So maybe it's not the best answer to you question as it's not a hobby gun.

dont forget the saiga .223 ak.

i have one its pretty decent for $319



with a small filing with a dremmel you take off a tiny raised lip on 35 rd galil mags and your good to go when you make necessary 922 mods, to keep it legal.

i bought some used orlite galil mags, israeli surplus for $8 used, then new ones for i think it was $13.

its sweet i love it.

best value, its an amazing gun for $319.

I just wish i had learned of saiga line of aks about 3 years ago, heck even last year i wish i had bought one of each.

i have a 16" barrel, .308 saiga on my bookmarks for sale for $299.

now they are well into the high $500, low six.

Thats kel tec looks kinda neat, but i only have 8 mags x $8 = $64
and 5 mags X$13= $65 into my rifle thus far.

13 mags for $129

all military surplus not cheapo jam o matic junk.

$319 +129= $448

now you save $250 over the keltec, and you would have 13 dedicated mags, not cutting into your AR15 mags.

The Nozzle said:

Is the .223 Keltec the same as 5.56 NATO? I've heard that the increased pressure of 5.56 is not good for .223's and .223's may not shoot as accurately in 5.56 rifles

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Yes, using 5.56 rounds is possible i beleive, but its not tuned for it, so if you HAVE to you can, but its best to use .223. They are basically the same round.

The Nozzle said:

For the OP, I'd say the rifle is missing one thing... that sound of a shotgun cocking sends fecal matter into the pants of non-intoxicated BG's.

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I heard a story once in regards to this. I like to think its true, but who knows.

Old woman calls the local police, states.
" i have two young hoodlums at gun point and i need a sheriff here now."
Small town, so officers are there in a manner of 4-5 minutes.
Officer pulls up to see the old woman marching out 2 young teenagers with her shotgun.
Officers instruct her to lay it down and back away.
She laughs and states, "Oh this old thing? Its not even loaded" places it on the porch and sits on a chair a few feet away.

The suspects are stunned, and the officers had a good laugh. Apparently the sound of her coking the shotgun caused them to give up right away.