Win. 244 is available at low (by today's standards) prices. Hodgdon has a fair amount of data for it. Check out the data.

 

thanks - i will look into that

JAG

 

Buy more Titegroup/High Gun while its available. If you limit your velocity to 1145 you could use Perfect Pattern. Time to face the facts your going to have to make some changes that includes buying bushings (much smaller) and different wads. Evin W244 will require much smaller bushings to load.

 

It’s frustrating finding powder that is bulky enough to use with three-quarter ounce wads. Who doesn’t hate dished crimps?

 

I use TiteWad or Extra-Lite for 3/4 oz reloads; no dished crimps ever

 

I think that dished crimps is the main reason they make cheerios

cdb

 

I made my boys stuff fiber fillers into a few thousand wads.

With component shortages, there's always children.

 

I load 244 and I like it and is readily available. You will need a 17 or 18 bushing depending on load.

 

244 seems like just the ticket for 1-1/8 Oz. 12 Gauge loadings with lead shot.

If we perceive a deficiency in ball powders due to their density leading to dished crimps our natural tendency is to fault the density nature of ball powders and uphold the glory of flake powders. In this we fail to grasp that this entire powder-centric view is more fundamentally a wad design problem. If wads had been designed around ball powders from the onset, we would be faulting and blaming flake powders for tented crimps. The real tragedy is that wad manufacture is reaching a juncture of non-profitability such that the cost to remedy the problem (whereby the remedy is to build entire series of ball powder suitable wads) may never occur, because the wad manufacturers lack the capital to undertake this solution. And they are afraid as a consequence.

 

I like 244, I bought a jug of it back when it was really cheap (nobody was buying it), there was no published data for it so it sat on the shelf for a long time. When Hodgdon first came out with data for shotgun loads I loaded probably 20 boxes of shells, and liked the results. I will probably go back to it when my Alliant stash of Red Dot, Promo, Green Dot, American Select, E3, Extra-Lite, Herco, and 20/28 are depleted.


cdb

 

That's a bum. My dog sits and watches me pump the 600. When he sees me reach for a bag of wads hell up ahead of me, grab the bag, shred it open, then sit and watch me struggle rounding them all back up.