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I just bought a Mossberg 500 shotgun and apparently their quality control is not where it should be. The problem is that the dowel in the magazine (capacity limiter) is OUTSIDE the mag spring. Am I wrong in believing that the dowel should be inside the spring for easier removal? If it's inside the spring, you can remove it through the barrel screw hole. The only way to get it out now is to remove the magazine and that is being made much more difficult by locktite on the threads or maybe it's just screwed on really tight. I'm very frustrated about it. Gotta run now. Going to to get the biggest wrench I can find and I'm going to town on this sucker.
 

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the magazine tube is lock-tited in place. a little heat will help.
Was this a NIB gun? I dont know what their sequence is for assembly, but it would make sense that the dowel would be something that would be added after the magazine is installed.
 

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So, the dowel is sitting beside the mag spring in the mag tube, instead of inside the coils? Sounds wonky, but should be an easy fix. Remove barrel, wrap leather belt around the end of the mag tube, use pipe wrench with light pressure to clamp onto the mag tube and unscrew it. Remove the follower, spring and dowel rod. Replace the spring and follower. Slide the dowel rod down through the end of the mag tube, then attach the barrel.
 

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you get what you pay for. it's a $200 shotgun, what do you expect lol

i would call them or return the gun though, that's terrible.
Easy on the mossbergs, my maverick ( which is the lower mossbergs) that was 187$ at wally world, out preformed my buddys month old 870. His was jamming the whole day wouldn't eject the shells.

Any company can have a lemon, so don't knock the brand because of a single problem! :grin:
 

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an 870 that won't eject (well any shotgun really) is a dirty gun. tell him to clean his gun and it won't be a problem.

i'm just not a fan of the 500, never seen one work properly or not have issues. i'd rather spend a little more and get a better quality shotty. some mossbergs are fine, even rather good guns, just not the 500.
 

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my maverick has worked fine thus far. maybe 500 rounds thru it in the last couple years. Granted, I haven't had it long, but its performed flawlessly.
the most common issue with a pump gun (500 and 870) is short stroking. you gotta cycle them like you mean it.

still waiting for word on if this was a NIB or used gun. If its used, I would say its kitchen table gunsmithing that is the problem.
 

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you get what you pay for. it's a $200 shotgun, what do you expect lol

i would call them or return the gun though, that's terrible.
In most cases YES!! In more and more instances not so true...The 500 is one hell of a shotgun and so are the even cheaper mavericks.... I have had more trouble out of 870's than ever in a MOSSBERG product.....Easy fix, I know it's a lil annoying but quit biTching and spend the 5 mins to get the way ya want it and go rock some buck00!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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my maverick has worked fine thus far. maybe 500 rounds thru it in the last couple years. Granted, I haven't had it long, but its performed flawlessly.
the most common issue with a pump gun (500 and 870) is short stroking. you gotta cycle them like you mean it.

still waiting for word on if this was a NIB or used gun. If its used, I would say its kitchen table gunsmithing that is the problem.
You couldnt have said it more TRUTHFULL.......
 

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you get what you pay for. it's a $200 shotgun, what do you expect lol

i would call them or return the gun though, that's terrible.
I'm not sure if you have ever owned your own Mossberg 500 or not ,but I think you need too know more about the 500 before you say things that you don't know what your talking about. I have a 500A Mossberg 12ga that I have had for a very long time. I also own a Remington 870 I like both of them very much, but the 870 has had it's issues over the years but I got to tell you, my Mossberg I would say Ive put somewhere around 18,000 rounds thru it over the years and I can tell ya the only issue I ever had to date was misfires because of some factory primers not going off, that's it, THAT'S IT. And oh by the way the 500A retails for around 471.00 not 200, maybe your thinking of the model 88 maverick. Mine came with two barrels and extra chokes and a real nice wood stock. Before I forget, the Mossberg was the only shotgun to pass the government milspec test. Have a nice day...
 

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My friend Patrick purchased a 500 several months back and he likes it. I put about 5-6 rounds with it and it cranks well enough to go after the trues. The 500 is noticeably looser than the 870. I have also heard horror stories of the 500 falling apart on the first shoot. Needless to say, quality control is lacking and the 500's are not proof fired at the factory. Like others have said, you get what you pay for!
 

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Somebody likes them, they have sold over 10 million of them. None to me, though. I'm not a fan. I won one at a shoot a few years back, and after breaking it down and looking inside I lubed it up, put it back together, and donated it to our local 4H group to raffle off as a fundraiser.
 

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just because 10 million sold just proves their marketing worked, not that they are still in operation. what isnt told is the story about the 6 million that most likely realized they got taken after the fact and sold them off.
 

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I owned a 500 once, years ago.
I'm not a fan, but once I got to inspect two ka-boomed shotguns, an 870 and 500 side by side and the 500 actually looked to be the stronger action!
PDs and the gov't both have bought a lot of 500s over the years and I'd think they'd have
pretty strict requirements (well, maybe not PDs---not for shotguns---but certainly the feds) I find it believable that modern QC has gone down hill. The 870 Express (I once owned one of those too) didn't exactly inspire my confidence---my old 1960's Wing Master is, IMHO by far a better built gun.
It appears that most pump actions are being sold not to sportsmen, but for HD and for some reason the targeted price point has dropped and more guns, even those marketed by old line American companies, are being imported from other countries exhibiting varied QC issues.
 

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Some interesting points made about the Mossberg. For the life of me I never knew the manufacture of the pump I was issued for several watches while in the navy, they were well worn and the action was smooth and tight as the 870, that's all I remember. The military usually doesn't screw around with light arms specs and evaluation.(okay, forget about the Beretta 92) The question I have is what exactly is the Mossberg military S/G? I suspect we might be discussing two different models of S/G's.
 

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the 500.
earlier it was the 37.
and remember murphies law of combat....'your gun was built by the lowest bidder.'
 
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