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Just picked up a new Remi 870 Tact.

Went to the range with it today and fired 3'' 00buck through it...

What in the world would you ever need 3'' 00buck for? It kicks substantially worst than standard 2 3/4 buck... I bought 100 rounds of the stuff and somewhat regret it.

I used to fire 3'' magnums from my Winchester 1300 and I don't remember them kicking nearly as hard as this new 18'' 870.

Maybe I need a new stock?


 

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I think what 3" buck is mostly used for is to randomly load one round in with some target loads and then hand your shotgun to a friend to try. It's always worth a good laugh when they get down to that shell.:twisted:
 

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Semi auto shotguns soak up some recoil.

You get a bit less recoil out of a semi auto shotgun than a pump. The action takes some of it to chamber another shell. A standard 2 3/4" slug has a bit more recoil than your buckshot, try putting one of those through it.

If the recoil is really bugging you, a pistol grip buttstock does help calm it down.
 

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I keep going back and forth about a Knoxx Stock or a Pheonix Technology stock. You Can find them on amazon for 100$ might just have to try one out


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if you look on line from blackhawk they have a colapsable buttstock with pistol grip and the matching forend. I put this on my Rem. 870 express and bought a 18" barrel and the felt recoil is nothing. I use it to shoot skeet, turkey, and deer season with. My grandfather in law who is 6'1 and maybe 160lbs soaking wet shot it and said it was the smoothest shooting pump he has shot in a long time with light recoil even with the 2 3/4 rifled slug rounds. something to try i think i paid like $60 for the butt stock. forend, and a 6 shell side saddle. The link to their website follows.

Shotgun Stock & Recoil Pads | Mossberg Stock & Shotgun Pistol Grip Stock - BLACKHAWK!
 

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The knoxx stock is legit, a buddy of mine has one on his 870 and WOW what a difference. I agree with a 3in mag buck or slug is always fun to throw in with some birdshot when a buddy is shooting the gun. haha
 

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FWIW I immediately took off the completely worthless, cheap recoil pad that came on my 870 home defense shotty and replaced it with remingtons supercell recoil pad. It made a world of difference on reducing the felt recoil. Ran me $25-$30
 

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2 3/4" shells are all you need or want for HD as far as I am concerned. I made the mistake initially of buying a few boxes of 3" 00 buckshot for my HD shotgun. Even with proper stance to mitigate the felt recoil it was difficult to accurately put follow up shots on target in a quick manner.
 

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I think what 3" buck is mostly used for is to randomly load one round in with some target loads and then hand your shotgun to a friend to try. It's always worth a good laugh when they get down to that shell.:twisted:
Problem I have is I still have ~75 of the damned 3'' buck left. The only real problem I had with the 3'' buck was I was getting slapped in the cheek pretty bad with it.

Going to be using 2 3/4'' from now on.

Is the 2 3/4'' buck enough for home defense?
 

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The only difference typically is going to be pellet count. Say 12 pellets instead of 9 in a 00 buckshot configuration. As long as you do your part and put shots COM then it won't matter. HD distances are going to be in the 5-10 yd range typically, so a pretty tight group even at the max distance. Buy as many brands as you can and pattern your shotgun to find what works the best for you. If you can find it Federal brand with the Flight Control wad is far and above the best for a tight pattern. Contrary to many popular opinions you do not want a large spread with your HD shotgun. You are responsible for all projectiles sent down range, make them count.
 

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They are nice guns but that powder coat finish isnt worth a thing. I have had mine for 3 years and I oil and wipe it down regularly but I have rust bubbles poping up on the ejection side of the reciever.I am gonna send mine to JD at AIP to have it parkerized and to get the few police upgrades on the internals.I will probably change out that tactical choke for a flush fitting modified choke.
 

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Really, my 870 is 10+, and it's rust free.

They are nice guns but that powder coat finish isnt worth a thing. I have had mine for 3 years and I oil and wipe it down regularly but I have rust bubbles poping up on the ejection side of the reciever.I am gonna send mine to JD at AIP to have it parkerized and to get the few police upgrades on the internals.I will probably change out that tactical choke for a flush fitting modified choke.
My 870 is my hunting gun, so it regularly sees rain/snow/weather. Been hunting with it for 10+ years. I do wipe it down if it gets wet, but I don't get anal about it. It's a hunting gun, so it's gonna get some abuse trudging through the woods, and climbing into my stand. I was impressed with how well the finish stood up, compared to a standard blue finish. No rust anywhere on it, there has to be some issue with yours.
 

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My 870 is my hunting gun, so it regularly sees rain/snow/weather. Been hunting with it for 10+ years. I do wipe it down if it gets wet, but I don't get anal about it. It's a hunting gun, so it's gonna get some abuse trudging through the woods, and climbing into my stand. I was impressed with how well the finish stood up, compared to a standard blue finish. No rust anywhere on it, there has to be some issue with yours.
Your gun was built under the old owners who cared about quality, the new ownership is cutting corners to make an extra buck.Mine has the grey powder coat finish and shouldnt be showing rust bubbles in less than 3 years.
 

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I have to send the 870 back to Remington because I am having spent shells getting stuck in the barrel.

I think it may be because of burs / tool marks or whatever on the inside of the barrel.

Kind of sad having to send it back already since I have only shot 50 rounds through it.
 

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gah! tool marks in the chamber?

jesus...yeah I'd say quality control is on the decline. I don't know how their customer service is but it had better come back with a polished chamber.

did the shell hulls have marks from the extractor clawing them with enough force?

also, what ammo was hanging?
 

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gah! tool marks in the chamber?

jesus...yeah I'd say quality control is on the decline. I don't know how their customer service is but it had better come back with a polished chamber.

did the shell hulls have marks from the extractor clawing them with enough force?

also, what ammo was hanging?
I'm not entirely certain what the problem is.

Some shells would stick in the tube after firing, the next shell would try to load on top...

I had pull the 2nd shell out of the chamber and re rack to get them to eject... A few of them still wouldn't come out and I had to use my bore rod to push them out! :shock:

I did not think to check the shells for any markings...

What is ironic is I was shooting all Remington ammo... 2 3/4'' reduced recoil 00buck and 3'' 00buck. Both had issues

It is very frustrating not having a reliable gun... I don't want to shoot it if I know it is going to be finicky at the range. Never feel very comfortable shooting a shell off and than having to push a rod down the barrel to eject the casing... Needless to say, the XDM 9mm with 2500+ rounds and 0 fte/ftf's is staying next to my bed still.
 

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i had the first FTE when i ut about 100 rounds through it. I was using winchester target load. The shot went down range and when i went to break it free to eject the shell it was locked up solid. The ejector had actually went through the brass. Since then I have never had an issue with it.
 

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I'm not entirely certain what the problem is.

Some shells would stick in the tube after firing, the next shell would try to load on top...

I had pull the 2nd shell out of the chamber and re rack to get them to eject... A few of them still wouldn't come out and I had to use my bore rod to push them out! :shock:

I did not think to check the shells for any markings...

What is ironic is I was shooting all Remington ammo... 2 3/4'' reduced recoil 00buck and 3'' 00buck. Both had issues

It is very frustrating not having a reliable gun... I don't want to shoot it if I know it is going to be finicky at the range. Never feel very comfortable shooting a shell off and than having to push a rod down the barrel to eject the casing... Needless to say, the XDM 9mm with 2500+ rounds and 0 fte/ftf's is staying next to my bed still.
Did you clean it real good before your range trip? I have to ask because I have an 870 express that gave me fits, same as yours, my first trip out. I had not thoroughly cleaned it though. Took mine home, stripped it down and scrubbed the peepee out of the barrel and receiver. Cleaned the mag tube as well, lubed and reassembled and have had no problems ejecting since. If that doesn't fix it you can google chamber polishing, it is a simple procedure with a drill and an old bore brush and some toothpaste. I would try cleaning first though and really scrub the chamber area with a copper brush and some good old hoppes #9. Good luck.
 
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