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Well picked mine up yesterday. Have yet to shoot it. Plan on going tomorrow. I am pretty excited to run the hell out of it. It's small to me even for a bullpup and I have to get used to loading it. I am used to the 870 and saiga. This is completely different
 

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Congrats! A guy on the acr forum I belong to has one. The slide broke on the rails and it was taken care of for him. I don't think he's had issues since.
 

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I plan on putting about 200 rounds through it tomorrow between myself and other club shooters. I plan to abuse it to see what breaks. I will abuse it like my 870's and let kel tec take care of whatever may happen.
 

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something I noticed about some of the rail breakage. Those used a VFG which a lot of stress is placed on a few rails. Not surprisingly it breaks on a plastic rail. I would shy away from using such a VFG. Know the limits of plastic rails, KT plastic isnt magpul plastic. But that one dajerseyrat guy seems to have his fixed, they redid a buncha stuff on his gun and hes happy with it now.

This is the email I just received and apparently they did find a few issues with the gun that were hopefully resolved. Unfortunately I will not get the weapon back till after May 3rd due to me leaving the country in the morning for vacation. :thumbsup:
Reading what repairs they did, it makes perfect sense to me with the issues i was having.Hopefully it will shoot very good for me in the future and I will be able to post a positive review of the weapon...

I will say that Ryan has been very helpful once the issue has come to light, I can only assume the ball was dropped in the scurry to get ready for the NRA show. I can understand now, but at the time i was pissed and was very upset, I have calmed down since. I have been very soft spoken to everyone I spoke to at Keltec and once they realized how upset I was, they were apologetic and have been helpful thus far. Like I said, somehow the ball got dropped but they have picked it up and made good so far.

I have personally reviewed your weapon and have done the following reviews / repairs:

· Replaced Barrel Assembly / Honed Barrel and Chamber: There was nothing "wrong" with the other barrel except I saw some cosmetic issues with the Picatinny and Barrel… the dimensions were good though with the barrel. That and if you were having extraction issues, I wanted to keep that system here to review in case we receive any more in the future… just in case.
· Reviewed Bolt: Bolt was good. Polished Bolt Lock as it was on the high tolerance and tight on the inside of the Bolt as the Bolt Lock cams down unlocking the system. This was most likely the issue with the weapon not extracting consistently.
· Grip: Good. No issues.
· Rear Stock: Good. No issues.
· Receiver: Completely rebuilt Receiver. It still has the same serial number and is the same Receiver, but it was rebuilt to ensure it was done correctly. The Receiver was sandblasted and re-parkerized to give it a new look again. New magazine springs / magazine plugs / followers, to ensure the rounds are seating properly-nothing wrong with the old ones, but I'm not going to re-use the old ones here. New Cartridge Stops / Selector / Selector Catch. The issue on Double Feeding also came from the inner cartridge stops (KSG-314 and KSG-315) were sanded to the lower tolerance, so there would be times when they did not work… I saw that too on testing. Those were replaced and the weapon does not Double Feed any more. No issues on anything else there. I did polish the swage / feed ramp area and this is smoother here on loading.
· Re-proofed. New assembly as stated above. Weapon was re-proofed.
· Test fired and Function Tested. I shot 200+ rounds through the weapon and two of our technician each shot 100+ rounds through the weapon. The weapon did not double feed and it extracted every round, including the "more challenging Centurion rounds" from Italy.
Re: My personal review of the Keltec KSG shotgun
I took the gun to the range last night and ran about 100 rounds through it and it did not jam once, so it looks as if the issues are resolved for now. I did immediately the gun was much easier to load and the magazine selector switch was easier to select from side to side, before the repairs it felt like it had to be forced to the point it would break. The action seemed smoother also. I put my sight back on and dialed it in at 15 yards, and will say this much for the gun, it is DEADLY ACCURATE for a short shotgun. With 00 buck I was able to put a hole dead center of the target and was able to then put every other round of 00 buck through the same hole at 15 yards.

Another good thing was that one of my range masters who was there the very same day I first fired the gun and had malfunctions, was there last night and he got to shoot the gun also and said it was night and day from when he first fired it. I will say that I am now happy with my KSG's performance wise so far, time will tell on the durability of the weapon.
 

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Range Report

Shot about 75 to 80 rounds of slug and buck. No jams, FTF,fte nothing. Ran like a champ. Loading is still a bit awkward and in my excitement I didn't realize it has no sights at all. Installed another persons primary arms aimpoint clone and point of aim point of impact on small steel targets right off the bat. Was using 7.5 buck at that point. I was pretty impressed.
 

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Reviews have been really mixed so far, love/hate relationships... Definitely have been some issues that should have been ironed out before general release.
I'd like to try one out, been wanting one since pics were first released... But am going to give it awhile and let them iron the wrinkles out.
 

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I'll probably get branded as a hater but I've played with a KSG at a local dealer and found it to be exactly like everything else Kel Tec makes...cheap, rough around the edges and functional.

There isn't a single Kel Tec firearm I've ever handled/shot that doesn't look like a cheap toy and posess some of the worst triggers I've ever had the displeasure of using.

BUT...(and a big but)...

They almost always go bang.

So...to sum it up, I would own a kel Tec if I needed a cheap alternative for a specific purpose. I would never drop big $$ on one no matter how neat-o it looks. $700+ (way more than that for most), is WAY too much for a neat looking shotgun (with a terrible trigger I might add). For what many are paying for them, I'd get an FN SLP...if high round count is wanted, a Saiga 12 would be a better deal.....

There's nothing wrong with the KSG, I just wouldn't drop a penny over $500 for one...
 
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