[ShotgunPro]

Hello all. I finally picked up a Mossberg 500 persuader, 20", 8 shot.
I'm a rookie when it comes to mossberg shotguns and had a few questions.

- Whats the best recoil reducer stock for the Persuader? I hear that the Knoxx Gen 2 and the Kicklite are good.

- I plan on adding a heat shield since my mossy didnt come with one. Is it best to get an OEM Mossberg 500 heat shield or is it ok to get an aftermarket brand? Local gunshop has a few aftermarket heat shields that are made out of Plasticote Zytel Fiberglass -are these good?

- What tac light do you guys recommend that is good and bright but yet something affordable.

- Is it ok to dry fire the mossy?

Thanks for your suggestions.

 

[ShotgunPro]

Heat shield = trash

I am also not a fan of "recoil reducing" stocks.....shotguns don't kick that hard. Work on stance/technique and practice, practice, practice.

Don't try to make it tacti-cool. As far as lights, surefire makes some nice integrated forends that hold lights. I wanted one for my Rem. 870 tac but couldn't pull the trigger for the price.

For you though, if you don't buy a heat shield and a stock, you could easily afford a very high quality rig like the surefire forend.

 

[ShotgunPro]

^^agreed I had a mossy 500 and put a knoxx on it. It almost seemed to make everything worse than if it was just wearing the stock furniture. If I wanted a pistol grip I would look into the adapter that allows you to put an AR grip and collapsable stock. It won't reduce recoil but seems alot better to me. I just put a 12" lop hogue overmold stock and foregrip works good for me.

 

[ShotgunPro]

Thanks for the replies.

I was thinking of the knoxx gen 2 recoil reducer. The gen 1 was a complete fail. Do you know of any other stocks that are good for the Mossberg? Recoil reducer or not? I dont like the way the factory stock looks

 

[ShotgunPro]

Honestly I would stick some type of shell holder on there, a sling and maybe a tac light. For indoor HD use a 100 lumen output is perfect. As for finding a cost efficient one that is durable enough for all 12 gauge loads. That's a little tricky. I've tried the cheap ones and they've never held up for me.

As for recoil reducing stocks, I wouldn't worry about it. Like Brad said, 12 gauges don't normally kick very hard, unless you are planning on shooting a lot of slugs.

Sights. I prefer ghost ring sights over rifle and bead sights, but that is entirely up to you to decide which feels more comfortable.

Dry firing is not a suggested common practice. It's not going to hurt your shotgun, but just always be aware the condition or your gun. Make sure it's not loaded. You will have to dry fire from time to time during function testing and so on after reassembly. Many people have different opinions on dry firing, and if it becomes an issue of concern for you, there's always snapcaps.

Also, take a look at some "Speedfeed" stocks. There are a few to choose from and I hear good things about them. ATI is another popular one as well as Hogue.

Enjoy your shotgun!

 

[ShotgunPro]

I have a Surefire X300 and even in complete darkness in my house I don't find the 170 lumens too bright at all. It doesn't wash out or reflect on white walls either. I would guess a good range to be anywhere from 100-250 lumens indoors but more would work as well.


I STRONGLY suggest you just put that extra cash into a quality light system.......you will spend more on a lot of tacticool stuff that does nothing and then you'll settle for a tacticool light instead of a quality light (remember, 12ga kicks hard enough that lights might have issues).



I still think a recoil 'reducing' stock is a waste of money....same with the heat shield.

Just like any firearm, there will be more felt recoil, and kick, if you are not shooting properly. It is all about your form. Practice, practice, and then practice some more. Watch videos, go to instructors, take classes.....But I can tell you that any recoil 'reducing' stock is only a facade that provides a tacti-clueless look.


Regardless, it is your money, but I remember when I bought my first shotgun (Remington 870 Tactical) that I wanted to do some of those sham-wow type mods too but I fought the urge and I am much better financially for it.

 

[ShotgunPro]

If recoil is a problem for you I recommend a LimbSaver recoil pad instead of the stock one.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-LIMB10201

For a light I would get a LaserLite tri rail and get a Streamlight TLR-1 or TLR-1s and mount the light on the tri rail.

 

[ShotgunPro]

Go with these guys. Function wise I learned after all the stocks and crap I tried the factory stock with a limbsaver butt pad was way better. My 10 year old shoots it and can handle the recoil fine. Its all in your form. I liked the look of a AR style stock but hated the way it ran. Learn the gun as is first and how to cycle it as fast and accurate as possible.

As far as heat shields go. Just for looks. I cycle 7 rounds and I can carry it by the barrel without getting burned once I know for a fact its cleared and empty .

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[ShotgunPro]

Get one of the integrated forend lights. Surefire is the one I'd choose, but Mossberg just started making their own, and I've heard they are decent.

Skip the recoil reducing stock; just get a decent buttstock for it and call it good.

I'd skip the heat shield; unless you're going to run it with a bayonet, they're pretty useless.

And, I'd just get a luminous front bead sight (XS makes a good one).

 

[ShotgunPro]

Mesa Tactical : default

makes great stuff and not cheap. If you see something you like look else where like midway, etc for much better price.

I am still rocking a wood stock, with scattergun technologies (wilson combat shotgun parts) ghost ring with trijicon, and a scattergun sling mount, and a blueforce gear sling.

Scattergun Technologies Vertical Sling Mounting Plate Remington 870

Scattergun Technologies Ghost Ring Sight Set Tritiumserts Front Rear

Blue Force Gear

and i replaced a plastic part in the tube with a metal part. The spring retainer in the tube in my 870 express super mag was plastic. A metal part was only a few bucks.

mine was red looked like this

Oh ballz. Sorry i posted in this reading to many threads at once. No scatter gun tech for 500. Check out messa though, and look at some other ghost ring sights with trijicon lanterns.

 

[ShotgunPro]

Mesa Tactical: Telescoping Stock and Adapter Kits : Products link to 500 recoil reduction stops with hydrolic damper system.

 

[ShotgunPro]

XD, go to stactionpro.com for dry fire training rounds. They are inexpensive and made to last. (LEO product).

 

[ShotgunPro]

Here is mine set up for HD.
I originally bought the 500 Field & Deer combo.
Decided I wanted it to be my Jack of All Trades shotgun, and added the 18.5" Security barrel to the mix.
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Not being happy with just the 18.5" barrel, I felt I needed to take the bedside boomstick to the next level, and bought a few upgrades.
1) I decided to upgrade the bead sight to a night sight.
2) The shoddy factory plastic safety was sticky and felt like crud.
3) I wanted a high-vis mag follower.

Meprolight Tritium Tru-Dot to go on the 18.5" Security barrel.
http://www.brownells...Dot-Night-Sight
Had to make a shim in order to get it to index, bit of a PITA.
But once done it is very satisfactory, nice white dot in full light and bright green in low/dark light.

Get one!

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Vang Comp oversized safety button.
http://www.brownells...versized-Safety
I like it a lot... Easy to install, looks and feels good.
Really smoothed out the safety and provides a very positive tactile feel.
This is one upgrade I highly recommend.

Get one!

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Orange anodized aluminum mag follower.
http://www.brownells...m-Orange-12-Ga-
Meh... I was hoping it would be brighter/glossier than pictured, but it was almost exactly as pictured.
A bit of buyers remorse, wish it was cheaper, but I'm satisfied overall.

Could live without it.

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I thought about a heat shield for the 18.5" barrel.
Heat Shield Mossberg 500 590 12 Ga Synthetic Black
Decided not to for various reasons.

I may still add a rail under the mag tube for a Streamlight TLR-1.

 

[ShotgunPro]

Thanks for all the comments.