really? Most people indicate for a pistol grip they like the mossberg better becuase of the tang safety. I personally like my 870s better, not for the safety but I just like them better. My 500 is a beater knockaround trunk gun and it's still a great great shotgun.I actually traded in my Mossberg towards an 870, because I found the position of the safety to be a bit awkward with a pistol grip stock. With a regular stock, it's fine, and there was nothing wrong with the gun itself.