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is there another manufactor besides benelli that makes a pump shotgun that can dump a chambered round w/o chambering another out of the magazine? (the benellie novas have a button on the forend just for this)
 

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Any of them you can you pull the slide back and eject the shell thats in the chamber, then rotate the weapon so the fresh shell falls out of the ejection port.
 

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Any of them you can you pull the slide back and eject the shell thats in the chamber, then rotate the weapon so the fresh shell falls out of the ejection port.
+1. It's not the shotgun chambering a new round. It's you. Just roll the round that comes out of the magazine into your hand. This will leave 2 shells in your hand instead of one but that is not a big deal.
 

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Any of them you can you pull the slide back and eject the shell thats in the chamber, then rotate the weapon so the fresh shell falls out of the ejection port.
+1. It's not the shotgun chambering a new round. It's you. Just roll the round that comes out of the magazine into your hand. This will leave 2 shells in your hand instead of one but that is not a big deal.
That's what I do. No big deal at all.
 

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+1. It's not the shotgun chambering a new round. It's you. Just roll the round that comes out of the magazine into your hand. This will leave 2 shells in your hand instead of one but that is not a big deal.
I've considered all that...i "thought" i asked if there were another manufacture that made, specificallly, a pump shotgun that would dump a chambered round intentionally, at a select or 'chosen' time leaving the rounds in the magazine from chambering. i guess i didn't ask it with enough detail - my bad - it must be ME!
 

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Older Browning BPS models, and the Franchi SPAS-12 come to mind. Cutoffs are more common on semi-autos. I can move the slide of my Mossberg pump back and there is a point where the shell starts to come out of the ejection port but the mag has not released a new round. That point is easy to find, so a mag cut off wouldn't make much sense.
 

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Older Browning BPS models, and the Franchi SPAS-12 come to mind. Cutoffs are more common on semi-autos. I can move the slide of my Mossberg pump back and there is a point where the shell starts to come out of the ejection port but the mag has not released a new round. That point is easy to find, so a mag cut off wouldn't make much sense.
Same thing with my Mossberg 590. Now, unless you are looking to fling a live shell without loading one from the tube, you really Don't need a cutoff. The spas 12 is semi auto or pump, 8+1 or less, and VERY VERY VERY RARE. And so are their parts.
 

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thinking of replacement shotgun for my 82 yr old dad

I short stroke my mossberg when Im unchambering a round.
thanks for all the ideas...this actually is stemming from thinking of taking my 870 away from my 82 yr old dad and leaving him w/one he could unchamber a 'live' round for safety purposes and i've got a few issues w/my benellie S-Nova on another post. i also like the 'comfort' stock of the SN over the 870 b/c of his age.

I've actually thought of giving him my SN w/a tac barrel and taking my 870 back from him for dogs coming through the yard and killing my mother's cats - that has been a bad scene lately!

my dad had an old J.C. Higgens full choke kick like a mule w/a bad safety - took that away from him yrs ago and gave him my 870. oh, BTW when i was a kid ~13yrs old he went to a dove shoot w/my cuz - i was not there and he took down a triple dove shot w/that old JC Higgins...THAT gun will Never leave the family! one of my older cuz that saw his shooting never miss exposa went out and bought him one. i think Sears and Robuck sold 'em in the '50/60s. this was 1968.
 

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can't you tap up the shell lifter on a rem870 so the round drops out of the bottom..... and the chambered still comes out of the ejection port..... coulda sworn you could.
 

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can't you tap up the shell lifter on a rem870 so the round drops out of the bottom..... and the chambered still comes out of the ejection port..... coulda sworn you could.
You are correct. I prefer dumping the 2 shells into the hand to this method: that way they both come out the same hole with one action.
 

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thought i asked about 'chambered' round

You are correct. I prefer dumping the 2 shells into the hand to this method: that way they both come out the same hole with one action.
i don't get this...why mess w/2 shells if you only want to dump the 'chambered' round and keeping the magazine full? all you have to do is slow down on the chambered round and let it drop out w/o going all the way back to lift the next round up (re: 870).

i have not been in the shotgun market for yrs and asked if maybe some 'shotgun' experts on the xd site could quickly tell me if any of the other manufactors had adopted the Nova slide button to dump the chambered round ONLY?
 

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Just get him either a single shot gun or an over/under or a double barrel and get it done.:rolleyes:
i'm concerned w/kick w/him and his aging now, esp a 12g. i like that 'comfort stock' w/the Super Nova that has that extra shock absorbing egnr'g in it. i'm actuall thinking of getting him a 20g SN...will be looking into that. i happen to 'like' the 'dump the chambered round' button on the forestock. i think he will like that too for an extra 'safety' factor of a nearly loaded gun in his house unattended when he's out. rack 'em and jack 'em up i say!
 

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can't you tap up the shell lifter on a rem870 so the round drops out of the bottom..... and the chambered still comes out of the ejection port..... coulda sworn you could.
with my maverick, I slide my thumb into the loading port, hit the release bar and it spits the round out against my thumb. round in hand, I can drop it in my pocket. repeat, and eject the third shell from the chamber (ok, I bird hunt alot), you may need to repeat the mag release a few times to empty the magazine.
I haven't shot a SN, but have shot a couple SBEs and yes, they are smooth and comfortable.
 

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is there another manufactor besides benelli that makes a pump shotgun that can dump a chambered round w/o chambering another out of the magazine? (the benellie novas have a button on the forend just for this)
I read some of this and I'm confused. Do you not like the benelli?
 

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yep i'm confusing for sure, esp written word

I read some of this and I'm confused. Do you not like the benelli?
i don't blame you for being confused reading my arcane stuff!

Yes i Love the benelli and the SN, but have some current slide issues (see my other post) and this has morfed into something beyond asking the best i know how to on: dumping the 1 and only 'chambered' round and LEAVING the rest of the mag tube full to store a 'pump' shotgun while unattended which happens to be actually for my 82 yr old dad (he just happens to have my 870 at his house right now)...morfed to a SN/870/mossy removing multiple live shells and maybe even spent shellls (i don't know, but they are bringing in several shells now?).

Since i have Not resolved my benelli SN cycling prob yet, i wondered if maybe some other manufactor had upgraded to that 'handy dandy' chambered round removal 'button' on the forestock like on a Benelli Nova or Super Nova pump?

i've been a benelli Nova fan ever since i saw Tom Knapp shoot 9 hand tossed clays w/a pump shotgun - what a decade ago!?
 

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Well, as I understood the "button" it's main use was to empty the tube without chambering any shells.

How often do you chamber a round that you don't need in the 870? Why not just load the tube and not chamber a round until you need/want to shoot something?
 

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button only effects 'chambered' round

Well, as I understood the "button" it's main use was to empty the tube without chambering any shells.

How often do you chamber a round that you don't need in the 870? Why not just load the tube and not chamber a round until you need/want to shoot something?
you've got that wrong, the button only effects the 'chambered' round - only! has nothing to do w/the shells in the tube.

The reason i would want shells in the tube and NOT in the chamber would be an 'added' safety issue - especially an unattended shotgun in your home [you know you need to rack one before aiming]. and i don't trust a trigger safety on a shotgun at all! my step son took a kids safety course yrs ago before getting hunting license and his instructor even demostrated a shotgun w/a trigger safety how dropping the buttstock on the floor would break the trigger and told them to NEVER trust or 'rely' on the trigger safety. I wasn't there, but his telling me that demo convinced me of it.
 
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