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I am looking for HD rounds for a 20 gauge shotgun. I have a combo, so I can use either the 20" rifled barrel (probably will not produce a very good pattern) or more likely my 26" smoothbore with eiher a modified or Improved Cylinder choke.

Question is what Buckshot to use. I have ordered both Remington's #3 Buckshot 2 3/4" shells and also Federal Vital Shok #2 Buckshot 3" shells.

Anyone have opinions on these or have experience with them. I would think #2 would be better, but I rarely hear of anyone using it. I see #3 being used often though for 20 gauge HD uses.

I also see alot of people using #4 for 12 gauge......wouldn't #2 or #3 out of a 20 gauge be more effective that #4 out of a 12 gauge?
 

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I also see alot of people using #4 for 12 gauge......wouldn't #2 or #3 out of a 20 gauge be more effective that #4 out of a 12 gauge?
I use #4 in my home defense shotty. I can't recall where I read the study that determined it to be the most effective against a human target in a self defense scenario.
 

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I am looking for HD rounds for a 20 gauge shotgun. I have a combo, so I can use either the 20" rifled barrel (probably will not produce a very good pattern) or more likely my 26" smoothbore with eiher a modified or Improved Cylinder choke.

Question is what Buckshot to use. I have ordered both Remington's #3 Buckshot 2 3/4" shells and also Federal Vital Shok #2 Buckshot 3" shells.

Anyone have opinions on these or have experience with them. I would think #2 would be better, but I rarely hear of anyone using it. I see #3 being used often though for 20 gauge HD uses.

I also see alot of people using #4 for 12 gauge......wouldn't #2 or #3 out of a 20 gauge be more effective that #4 out of a 12 gauge?
Your post is quite confusing about your shotgun. There are no modern shotguns that have rifled shotgun barrels.:confused: Did you mean it is a rifle/shotgun combination?:rolleyes: Or are you talking about 2 different guns? As for shot, the smaller the number the larger the pellet. So size would be determined by conditions it is used for.
 

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Your post is quite confusing about your shotgun. There are no modern shotguns that have rifled shotgun barrels.:confused: Did you mean it is a rifle/shotgun combination?:rolleyes: Or are you talking about 2 different guns? As for shot, the smaller the number the larger the pellet. So size would be determined by conditions it is used for.
Rifled slug barrels.
 

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To the OP, a rifled barrel will not pattern very well and will be very eratic. I have some #3 buck in my 20 gauge and #4 buck in my 12. Buckshot is not to be confused with birdshot.

SizeTypeWeightDiameter#TriBall(12 Ga.)Buck20.41 g (315 gr.)15.24 mm (0.60")#0000Buck5.51 g (85 gr.)9.40 mm (0.380")#000Buck4.54 g (70 gr.)9.14 mm (0.360")#00Buck3.49 g (53.8 gr.)8.38 mm (0.330")#0Buck3.18 g (49 gr.)8.13 mm (0.320")#1Buck2.62 g (40.5 gr.)7.62 mm (0.300")#2Buck1.91 g (29.4 gr.)6.86 mm (0.270")#3Buck1.52 g (23.4 gr.)6.35 mm (0.250")#4Buck1.34 g (20.7 gr.)6.09 mm (0.240")#FFBuck1.18 g (18.2 gr.)5.84 mm (0.230")#F (TTT)Buck1.05 g (16.2 gr.)5.59 mm (0.220")#TTBuck0.98 g (15.1 gr.)5.33 mm (0.210")#TBuck0.89 g (13.7 gr.)5.08 mm (0.200")#BBB0.66 g (10.2 gr.)4.82 mm (0.190")#BB0.57 g (8.8 gr.)4.57 mm (0.180")#B0.48 g (7.4 gr.)4.32 mm (0.170")
 

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To the OP, a rifled barrel will not pattern very well and will be very eratic. I have some #3 buck in my 20 gauge and #4 buck in my 12. Buckshot is not to be confused with birdshot.

SizeTypeWeightDiameter#TriBall(12 Ga.)Buck20.41 g (315 gr.)15.24 mm (0.60")#0000Buck5.51 g (85 gr.)9.40 mm (0.380")#000Buck4.54 g (70 gr.)9.14 mm (0.360")#00Buck3.49 g (53.8 gr.)8.38 mm (0.330")#0Buck3.18 g (49 gr.)8.13 mm (0.320")#1Buck2.62 g (40.5 gr.)7.62 mm (0.300")#2Buck1.91 g (29.4 gr.)6.86 mm (0.270")#3Buck1.52 g (23.4 gr.)6.35 mm (0.250")#4Buck1.34 g (20.7 gr.)6.09 mm (0.240")#FFBuck1.18 g (18.2 gr.)5.84 mm (0.230")#F (TTT)Buck1.05 g (16.2 gr.)5.59 mm (0.220")#TTBuck0.98 g (15.1 gr.)5.33 mm (0.210")#TBuck0.89 g (13.7 gr.)5.08 mm (0.200")#BBB0.66 g (10.2 gr.)4.82 mm (0.190")#BB0.57 g (8.8 gr.)4.57 mm (0.180")#B0.48 g (7.4 gr.)4.32 mm (0.170")
I have seen the size charts, so I understand the basic size differences.

I guess where I am more confused is that 12 gauge owners often use #4 and 20 gauge users often use #3, which is larger. I also am wondering about #2 for my 20 gauge.

So maybe the better way to put it is, what is the biggest determining factor in how effective buckshot will be for HD? Size of the pellets? Number of pellets? IS a smaller pellet more effective in a 12 than it would be in a 20? THis is what I am getting at. I am disregarding spread pattern because I can change chokes to adjust that.
 

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I have seen the size charts, so I understand the basic size differences.

I guess where I am more confused is that 12 gauge owners often use #4 and 20 gauge users often use #3, which is larger. I also am wondering about #2 for my 20 gauge.

So maybe the better way to put it is, what is the biggest determining factor in how effective buckshot will be for HD? Size of the pellets? Number of pellets? IS a smaller pellet more effective in a 12 than it would be in a 20? THis is what I am getting at. I am disregarding spread pattern because I can change chokes to adjust that.
Personal opinion.

All buckshot will work fine for HD, at HD distances (30' or less).
 

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Maybe because hunting turkey with a 20 isn't a good idea?
You dont turkey hunt with #4 buck, thats .24 caliber pellets.

Im not sure why they don't make #4 for 20 gauge maybe the size and weight of the shot in #3 is a good balance for effective energy transfer and penetration.
 

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You dont turkey hunt with #4 buck, thats .24 caliber pellets.

Im not sure why they don't make #4 for 20 gauge maybe the size and weight of the shot in #3 is a good balance for effective energy transfer and penetration.
Interesting....I will have to spend some time at the range with the #3 and #2 buckshot i bought and see how it goes. I bought 4 boxes of each, so I have enough to test with and have leftover "just in case"

And yes, I have heard from many who hunt deer with a 20 gauge rifled barrel shotgun and can hit at +100 yards. Basically becomes a rifle.

Also have heard of people hunting turkey with a 20....don't see what you couldn't hunt anything with a 20 you could with a 12 given the proper shell/choke combination.....am I wrong?
 

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Interesting....I will have to spend some time at the range with the #3 and #2 buckshot i bought and see how it goes. I bought 4 boxes of each, so I have enough to test with and have leftover "just in case"

And yes, I have heard from many who hunt deer with a 20 gauge rifled barrel shotgun and can hit at +100 yards. Basically becomes a rifle.

Also have heard of people hunting turkey with a 20....don't see what you couldn't hunt anything with a 20 you could with a 12 given the proper shell/choke combination.....am I wrong?
Turkey's are taken with head shots. I see no reason why a 20 wouldnt work if your within an acceptable range for the gun and shell.
 

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I stand corrected!:oops: We use rifles for deer in my state.
Some state's don't allow hunting with rifles...such as Ohio. I'm guessing that's why shotgun barrels became more widely available with rifling...essentially making shotguns perform like rifles while not technically being a rifle (lol).

FYI I hunt deer in OH with a 12 ga. rifled barrel Remington 870 and Hornady SST shotgun slugs.
 
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