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I have just begun reloading black poder shotgun shells. In my muzzleloading 12 guage I always used 3f poder. I know this is fast powder but I alawys got very good results and clean burn. I have had so so results in a 12 guage breechloading double any recommendations for another powder.
 

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Now I use shot shells in mine but load with 2F black powder and have use Pyrodex RS also though not a favorite of mine. I also use 2F in my 45-70 and 45 Colt loads all are cartridge ammo.
 

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I'm not any expert on the matter by any means, but the only way to really tell is to test it on some Ballistic Gel, and get a Chronograph. I would imagine the reduced weight of the wad would actually increase the velocity to some degree, but like I said, I'm no expert
 

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I have just begun reloading black powder shotgun shells. In my muzzleloading 12 guage I always used 3f powder. I know this is fast powder but I alawys got very good results and clean burn. I have had so so results in a 12 guage breechloading double any recommendations for another powder.
I am an NRA certified black powder instructor, and you have been given some good advice. I would try 2fg black, it burns slower so it takes about 10 % more to get the same velocity as with 3fg. You might also want to try Pyrodex RS or P, and Hodgdon 777. Keep yer powder dry.......Robin ;)
 

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I am an NRA certified black powder instructor, and you have been given some good advice. I would try 2fg black, it burns slower so it takes about 10 % more to get the same velocity as with 3fg. You might also want to try Pyrodex RS or P, and Hodgdon 777. Keep yer powder dry.......Robin ;)
Robin,

Not trying to hijack a thread here but I'll hide this rifle question here!:rolleyes:
Since you certainly know more about BP than me I would like your thoughts on the feasibility of shooting something more than CB longs in an 1873 Winchester 22 long.

Is there a place that sells BP 22? Do you suspect adverse effect from shooting modern HV (1260 fps) 22 longs from the old smoke pole?

The gun is probably 80 - 85% blue and wood, shinny bore, tight action. Certainly, I have no interest in taking it squirrel hunting or shooting it much at all for that matter. It's just one of those things that I would like to give a go. For what reason? I don't know.
 

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Robin,

I would like your thoughts on the feasibility of shooting something more than CB longs in an 1873 Winchester 22 long.
Is there a place that sells BP 22? Do you suspect adverse effect from shooting modern HV (1260 fps) 22 longs from the old smoke pole?

If your rifle is chambered for .22L ammunition, Your limited to .22 longs, .22 shorts or CCI Mini-Mags. It would not cost much to have it bored out to accept .22 long rifles. I do not believe .22's were ever made using black powder. You should be aware that black powder becomes hydroscopic, (attracts water), after it is burned. It becomes slightly acidic and will cause rust if not cleaned soon after shooting. It is inert before it is burned. It will not harm your firearm to shoot modern ammo. PM me if you have further questions.........Robin ;)

PS: I did some research and found that they did once make black powder .22 shells, but they are no longer available.........rlc
 

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80 grains Goex FFg, one or two nitro cards, and 1/2 inch cushion wad and 1 1/8 ounce of shot. Wad stack can be varied to get a good crimp.
I shoot trap with this load.

If you dip the cushion wads in a mixture of 50% crisco and 50% beeswax melted in a double boiler, it will keep the black powder fouling soft and keep it from building up.
 

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Robin,

I would like your thoughts on the feasibility of shooting something more than CB longs in an 1873 Winchester 22 long.
Is there a place that sells BP 22? Do you suspect adverse effect from shooting modern HV (1260 fps) 22 longs from the old smoke pole?

If your rifle is chambered for .22L ammunition, Your limited to .22 longs, .22 shorts or CCI Mini-Mags. It would not cost much to have it bored out to accept .22 long rifles. I do not believe .22's were ever made using black powder. You should be aware that black powder becomes hydroscopic, (attracts water), after it is burned. It becomes slightly acidic and will cause rust if not cleaned soon after shooting. It is inert before it is burned. It will not harm your firearm to shoot modern ammo. PM me if you have further questions.........Robin ;)

PS: I did some research and found that they did once make black powder .22 shells, but they are no longer available.........rlc
Rimfire predates centerfire and the original .22 rimfires were indeed loaded with black powder. I think it was something like 4 grains of 4fg and it gave velocities similar to modern standard velocity rounds.
You'll probably have to wipe the bore after every couple of shots. Small bores foul fast with black powder loads.
You'll most likely have to make your own ammo. Pull the bullet, dump the smokeless, and fill the case up with black powder. Black powder loads should be slightly compressed, no air space. Not having air space will determine the charge you load into the case.
Don't forget to clean the bore after you are through shooting. Clean as if you shot corrosive primers. Wash the bore out with water, dry, then oil.
 
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