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So I keep my Mossberg as my go-to in the event of a home invasion. It's just easier for me to grab, point, and shoot than my XDm; a significant consideration in the high-stress, confusing environment of a break-in. I'm wondering what would be the best shell for home defense? Ideally I'd keep a slug in there but I'm worried about pass-through as I live in a ****** apartment. So then I'm thinking buckshot. But what size? Do you guys think the pass-through issue legit or am I just being too cautious?
 

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There isn't anything short of pepper spray or a taser that won't be a pass through issue in an apartment. So practice with your shotgun enough to be able to comfortably hit your target under pressure. Go with 00 in your shotgun and you'll be fine. I wouldn't ever go lower then #1 buckshot which is 30 cal pellets. 00 will be the easiest to find and practice with as it's easily available at most sporting good stores or walmarts.

Everyone is going to try and talk you into something or other but if you want a shotgun just practice with it and you'll be better prepared then all the people who just read studies and watch YouTube videos.
 

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I'm pretty good with a shotgun, I've been shooting them since I was a kid. I'm not worried about missing, it's just that I've routinely seen slugs go through a foot of deer flesh from 25 yards out. I'm worried what it would do to a skinny crackhead from 5 yards.
 

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I wouldn't ever suggest any of that. I'm not a big fan of annoying an attacker. Just shoot to kill. Not trying to be a tough guy but novelty shells aren't something I want to bet my life on.

00 and practice are your best bet.
I was being sarcastic and making a joke, if you didn't catch that...

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I was being sarcastic and making a joke, if you didn't catch that...

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I thought you misread my post to say I was suggesting pepper spray shotgun shells. Obviously they are selling them to someone who thinks this is a good idea. I just don't want any confusion that this is a novelty round for FPS Russia to play with not to trust your life on. someone is most likely ordering a case right now.
 

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I use 00 Buck and plenty of practice. I know how the 00 Buck patterns at the distance I would be engaging a bad guy and I'm confident that most, if not all, will impact my intended target.
 

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I have to ask since this subject was brought up, at gunshows here in Kansas they supposedly sell SD shells fill with mixtures of buckshot(yes like FPS Russia shows in his video) and even some filled with broken glass shards. I've never seen them, I have 5 or so friends who swear they've seen them.
 

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12 gauge shotgun loads for LE duty use - M4Carbine.net Forums

Until recently, the 12 gauge shotgun has remained the universally accepted shoulder fired weapon for United States law enforcement general purpose use. While law enforcement 12 ga. shotguns are typically loaded with #00 Buckshot and offer outstanding incapacitation potential and increased hit potential against moving targets at close range (no more than 15 to 25 yard), . . .

. . . Law enforcement 12 ga. shotguns using buckshot of #1 or larger size offer greater close range physiological incapacitation potential than virtually any other commonly used shoulder fired weapon-- this can be a significant advantage during urban entry missions and high risk warrant service in closely confined settings. Should the need arise to stop fast moving targets at close range, like aggressive dogs that could not be deterred through less lethal alternatives, 12 gauge buckshot of #1 shot or larger is the optimal ammunition choice. . . .

The new Federal #1 buckshot, 15 pellet, 1100 fps "Flight Control" load (LE132-1B) offers IDEAL terminal performance for LE and self-defense use and is the best option for those who need to use shot shells for such purposes. . . .
I find the Federal 00 Buck (Federal Premium Personal Defense Ammo 12 Ga 2-3/4 Reduced Recoil 00) easier to find and have stocked up on it. I bought it in bulk when on sale.
 

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Low Recoil 00 or #1 buckshot

So I keep my Mossberg as my go-to in the event of a home invasion. It's just easier for me to grab, point, and shoot than my XDm; a significant consideration in the high-stress, confusing environment of a break-in. I'm wondering what would be the best shell for home defense? Ideally I'd keep a slug in there but I'm worried about pass-through as I live in a ****** apartment. So then I'm thinking buckshot. But what size? Do you guys think the pass-through issue legit or am I just being too cautious?
2 3/4" Low Recoil 00 buckshot or #1 buckshot.

Federal LE132 15 pellet #1 Buckshot
Federal LE132 9 pellet OO Buckshot
Federal Low Recoil 9 pellet buckshot without Flitecontrol
Federal Full Power 9 Pellet buckshot without Flitecontrol

I use the low recoil 9 pellet or full power buckshot to practice but at home I used #1 buckshot. But until I was able obtain #1 buckshot I used LE132 00 buckshot or LE133 8 pellet 00 buckshot.
 
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