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Old 10-03-2019, 08:24 PM   #1
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My perfect repeater won’t repeat

It seems that my 16gauge model 12 has been driving me a little nuts. When I got this particular 16gauge skeet gun, i had been loading Winchester Super X cases. My gun doesn’t seem to eject fired cases. It’s like they are a little too long. They seem to hit on the front end of the ejection port. Some will eject, others lay inside of the open receivers. Unfired shells cycle perfectly. Has anyone else had issues like this?
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some early 16ga were 2 9/16" and not 2 3/4". how old is your m12?
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:36 PM   #3
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Some new 2 3/4” shells are a little taller than others, also. My model 12 16 gauge has been reworked to accept 2 3/4” shells. It’s still not perfect. What was it? After 1931, Winchester made 16 gauges to accept 1 3/4”?
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typo...he means 2 3/4.
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Mine were both made in the 40s with the 2 3/4” chamber
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:22 AM   #6
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30 years no issues with mine.
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Your in-depth knowledge of the gun and its care and maintenance helped a bit too!
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:45 AM   #8
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if its not the length, super x's have been known to slip off the extractor on some of my guns.
try a true brass base hull and see it it happens. if it does, might want to put a new edge on yours or replace it.

bill, what happened to you?
the one true ga is giving this guy issues. this is where you shine and all youre doing is ragging his gun for NOT being an ithaca.
not like you at all.
come on old friend. step up and tag team us.
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:39 PM   #9
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I deleted my original reply, that was a bad day and I should not have posted what I did. My apologies to the OP for that.
Some 16ga M12's have ejection hang-ups with a lot of modern ammo, even newer ones made for 2-3/4 - mainly because the hulls can vary widely in length. Remington is particularly bad about that. Extractors can also slip on the steel heads, as you noted. I don't know of any modern shells with brass heads. Last ones that I saw were the Winchester game loads in the CF AA-style hull - and not all of them were brass! Seems the ones head-stamped with 'Winchester Western' were all brass- but the ones just stamped as 'Winchester' were steel. I have a lot of both and that has been true of all of them.

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