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Old 11-16-2020, 05:34 PM   #1
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A New Over/Under on the Market ?

I was in our local clubhouse this past weekend and they had several ATI Crusaders for sale. They were O/U 12 gauge with a rib. I have never heard of ATI but their guns were very good looking. I have a friend that shoots with me once a month and would like to buy his first o/u. Anyone know anything about these guns ?
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List price of $600 or under? I'd be skeptical unless TBSC will let you pattern it first. Personally, I would look for a used Beretta 303 or 390.
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Bought one in a 410/28 combo barrels. They are fun to play with and all that, BUT I would not get one for every weekend shooting. They are very light, kicks like a little mule and wouldn't hold up for heavy use. That's just one persons opinion.
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List price of $600 or under? I'd be skeptical unless TBSC will let you pattern it first. Personally, I would look for a used Beretta 303 or 390.
I don't think that they will let me test drive one. They were pretty to look at but he is asking $600.00 for them and ... Just to good to be true. I am going to warn my friend off of them.
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Those guns have been on the market for a while. For a entry level o/u I'd look at a Browning CX great guns and can be sold quickly if it don't work out.
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A used Winchester 101 should be less money than the Browning and work just as well. I know that many people might right that "they kick like a Missouri mule" but I've been shooting trap with one for quite a while and I don't notice any more kick than with a Browning.

Remember, if the gun is going to be regularly used for any of the clay sports, guns that sell new for under $1,000 are not going to hold up well for that level of use. There is also, as one other poster briefly mentioned, the critical issue of barrel regulation which is difficult in over and under shotguns. Frankly, in today's manufacturing environment, some of the more expensive guns are poorly regulated. In the price range of the gun your friend is considering, getting well regulated barrels is going to be a lucky accident.
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The Win101's 'kicking' reputation was a result of them being made with a narrow comb, which tended to slap a shooter's cheek rather sharply, and they also did not seem to fit the average shooter, which also increased the felt recoil. I've not had either problem with them, I still shoot one a lot at Sporting and have owned two others. I was offered a lot more for those than I had in them so they were sold to finance a more expensive gun.
I agree with staying away from lower priced guns, you generally get what you pay for and as others have said, they will not stand up to constant use. I see that a lot at my home club, where I serve at least 4-5 days a month as a range officer for trap/skeet/sporting.

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