10-04-2020, 07:22 PM
Join Date: Oct 2020
Sunstituting Pistol Bullets For .410 Shotgun Slug Loads
I have a Mossberg 500 .410 pump shotgun with the 24" .410 bore slug barrel, and due to the problems here in Eastern Ohio with the 410 ammo shortage that even started a bit before this covid thing, I'm wanting to cast my own slugs for my 2 1/2' hulls.
I've already made my own slug loads for my 500 12ga using the Lee 7/8oz KeyDrive mold and for my 500 20ga using the Lyman's 350gr Sabot mold which both molds have you use the standard shot shell wad for housing the slug. I got more than exceptional results with both loads, but keeping in mind that I'm not overwhelmingly focused on accuracy for my 410 loads however I am trying to get the most accurate load as possible by means of using pistol bullets in my 410 shot shell hulls whereby the slug will be placed inside the wad
I also want to make known that lead shot is not cheap here by NO MEANS. I've called around our area within an hour drive, and any sporting good store that has lead shot wants on average of 55-65.00 for a 25lb bag and I'm not going to put more money into the equipment and learning time into making my own lead shot when I have a GOOD supplier of both wheel weight lead and soft lead for my casting and already have a pretty good understanding on how to cast and load my slugs. As of right now I'm sitting on nearly 400 lbs of wheel weight lead cast into 1lb bars and 250lbs of soft lead cast into 1lb bars which the wheel weight lead is only .22 per pound and the soft lead I recently started getting for .40 per pound
I know that Svarog makes a .410 Match (Sabot) mold and I bought it from them directly for a bottom line cost of 56.18 versus buying it from an ebay seller for average of 100-110.00, but I am starting to walk away from using this mold due to the fact of there's ABSOLUTELY NO ONE providing load data in the way of what components to use. Sure, I can go by the shot shell load data based on it's projectile weight for how much powder to use , but there's the problem with what other components (wads, nitro cards. gas seals, fiber cushion, etc) that there is NO WHERE telling us what to use. This cast bullet is sized for the .410 barrel whereby being .408-.409. and so it will not be used in a wad but will have to be placed on top of a wad or some other means, and I'm also not interested in doing the round ball
With all due respect to you all, please don't refer me to Ballistic Products as I recently left another popular shotgun forum site because they have 'spammers' who keep coming into my threads trying to get me to buy Ballistic Product's 410 slugs, and this is even after I politely reminded other users including remind one user 3 times that I said how I'm not buying other slugs when I obviously have the lead here to cast my own and simply because I made it clear that I want to cast my own as a goal to complete in order to become more self-sustaining and also because I'm a paraplegic and being confined to a wheel chair now makes it very difficult to get outside and do much of anything during the winter months.
Wew... well sorry for the book there, but I'm trying to be specific so everyone will know ahead of time of what I'm specifically needing help on and what I'm not needing, and so now onto the main topic:
I know that I can use any one of the following: a 9mm, a 38 special, or a 357 Magnum bullet whereby their diameter fits snugly (not too tight and not too loose) into the standard .410 shot shell wads... yes, I've tried each one in the 410 wads
I am initially considering the 357 magnum flat nose mold from Lee which yields a 200 grain bullet that is just under a 1/2 oz that makes it nice because there are SO MANY load recipes for the 1/2oz shot-shell loads
So does anyone have any experience or can lead me to someone who does, concerning how the length and/or weight of the bullet would effect this particular load project whereby I already know that any of these bullets I go with will have a shorter length than what the lead shot filled up to in the wad and so I will be just having to use a couple or whatever nitro cards in order to fill the space which is needed to bring the bullet near the top of the wad and yes I will be doing a fold crimp and not messing around with buying and learning how to do the roll crimps
So does things like a longer bullet in this particluar load apllication help to stabilize it once it leave the guidance of the barrel and the wad detaches from the slug, or is it a shorter bullet that would achieve a better accuracy? or is it .... ?
Last edited by Get-The-Lead-Out; 10-04-2020 at 08:24 PM.