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Is there any reason to not use a scope when hunting deer?

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Old 07-05-2020, 09:37 AM   #1
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Is there any reason to not use a scope when hunting deer?

I live in a shotgun only area and I’m new to hunting. I’m going to get a rifled Savage 220 with a scope for deer hunting.

I’m wondering if I should also get a non scoped shotgun? Is there any situations where a non scoped shotgun would be better for deer hunting? And if yes what kind of shotgun/sights would you recommend?

I’m also thinking of rabbit/turkey hunting so if I get a second gun I’d like it to be a jack of all trades type of shotgun where I can hunt deer, rabbit, turkey etc.

Thanks for your answers.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:16 PM   #2
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All good questions stubtoeman but a lot of the shooters here are trap and skeet people or like me in a State where rifles are used for hunting ...but I would think a low power scope would work well..I think the experts will be along soon..
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:05 PM   #3
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Maybe a Red Dot in lieu of a scope?
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:14 AM   #4
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No reason not to use a low power scope or a red dot on a slug gun for deer.

On my Mossberg 500 I used a no-gunsmith saddle mount with a Bushnell 1.5-4 scope.

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Old 07-07-2020, 08:01 PM   #5
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I use a Bushnell Elite scope on my Rem 11-87 with cantilever. I would suggest a 20 ga since it has less recoil and shoots flatter with sabot slugs. 12 ga is really overkill for deer and the shooters shoulder. You can only shoot sabot slugs from a rifled shotgun barrel, shoot shot and it just spins out into a huge pattern that completely misses at close range.
Many good shotguns for a second shotgun and I would still suggest a 20 ga, a semi if you can afford it. Some of the older Italian ones weigh very little, I have a 20 ga semi at 6 pounds. Extra pounds tend to weigh even more the longer you carry it.
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:29 PM   #6
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I would not use a scope ...

I would not use a scope. I have had enough days where rain or snow made iron sights a better choice. The range of the shotgun doesn't really require a scope. And for me, I walk and hunt. It is nice to be able to wrap your hand around the gun at the balance point when you walk and you can't do that, at least comfortably, with a scope mounted. Weighs a bit less too.
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:13 PM   #7
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No scope on my .410

As was already said...iron sights are good up to most effective shotgun deer slug ranges...45-50 yds.
A 3 inch load in 410 is ~700 fps at 50yds...and quite deadly
Optics can be helpful...but not necessary...personal choice!
Shot placement is the real key...practice 3x before you get comfortable to hunt live - is a good rule of thumb.
FYI I use mine for feral hogs as well...being careful to hit the right vital organs on any game!
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:33 PM   #8
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I'm ok with it. Used one for years and years.





I don't see any reason for two guns. One good one is all you need. I buy Remingtons 870, 1100, 1187.

Important thing is one barrel for deer hunting and another with choke tubes for every thing else. If you like a scope on every thing else, then you will like one on that slug barrel. If you don't like 'em on any thing else then you won't. Get a slug barrel with adjustable rifle type sights or a cantilever set up for the scope based on what you already like. Shot gun is no reason to change any thing different.

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Old 07-09-2020, 10:05 PM   #9
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Use what you want. All depends on ranges of your typical shots. Up close and personal in tight timber, probably not. Stretching out to extended "slug" ranges, probably so.
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I agree with southdakbearfan above. In the heavy brush or woods, your range is generally less than 50 yards, so a scope is unnecessary, and you will probably use "full-bore" slugs. Iron sights will work well. If you are out on open ranges, possibly a 1x4 variable scope would work better, and you will probably be using sabot slugs; however, if you are in that situation, I highly suggest practicing a bunch at the shooting range. Shooting a shotgun at 100+ yards accurately take a lot of practice, especially in selecting which brand and versions within that brand of ammo.
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